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re: Did Taylor Gooch get fired from the 4 Aces team?

Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:31 pm to
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It's almost like puting on a 4 day sporting event is expensive. 16% doesn't sound like a small number to me. I'd like to see a breakdown of their expenses before coming to the conclusion that giving 16% if their revenue was a paltry number. And given what we've seen from the WMO, $650k doesn't sound like a small number. I've seen normal people pay several grand on dumpster filling/collecting fees for a residence. Now do the math for a golf tournament with a couple hundred thousand spectators over 4 days.


And you just watched the PGA tour more than double their prize money overnight to the pro golfers. That money was always there. But they weren't sharing until they had to.

Here's how it works: Take the FedEx St. Jude Classic in Memphis, Tenn. A nonprofit by the name of Youth Programs Inc. was formed in 1960 as a 501(c)(3) organization, which is the same public charity category as your local humane society, cancer research fundraising group, homeless shelter or Boys & Girls Clubs.

On its publicly available IRS form, the purpose of Youth Programs Inc. is to "host an annual professional PGA Tour sports event for the benefit of charitable organizations." In 2011, it made $15.3 million, about 89 percent of that from the golf tournament. It spent $15.3 million, which included about $6 million in prize money for the golfers and $5 million in TV promotion. It spent close to $1 million on tournament production and $500,000 on food and beverages, most likely at a discount because Youth Programs is also exempt from paying sales tax in Tennessee.

The amount actually spent on charity -- the money given to St. Jude's -- was $1.5 million, or 10 percent of tournament expenses. Only $253,742 of that was actual cash to the research hospital. The rest went to St. Jude ads aired during the televised tournament, pro-am entry fees, and air travel for celebrities.

Youth Programs Inc. president Jack Sammons declined a request for an interview.

Twenty-five of the tournaments on the primary PGA Tour circuit are arranged as 501(c)(3) public charities or private foundations, although not all of them account for tournament expenses in the same way. (The rest are either not run by a nonprofit, take place outside the United States, or are run directly by the PGA Tour.) IRS rules loosely dictate how the money raised has to be spent, but charity watchdog groups have set standards to determine what a responsible charity is, and Charity Navigator says -- at a minimum -- 65 percent of the money raised should be spent on providing actual charity.

The 501(c)(3) PGA tournaments average about 16 percent.
Posted by Shankapotamous
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
16 percent is still better than the 0 percent LIV is contributing.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:04 pm to
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And you just watched the PGA tour more than double their prize money overnight to the pro golfers.

I also just watched the PGA Tour negotiate new TV and digital rights deals that didn't go into effect until 2022
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The amount actually spent on charity -- the money given to St. Jude's -- was $1.5 million, or 10 percent of tournament expenses. Only $253,742 of that was actual cash to the research hospital. The rest went to St. Jude ads aired during the televised tournament, pro-am entry fees, and air travel for celebrities.

So, they should give less to the charitable orgs and even more to the players? Sounds like they gave a sizeable portion of their net revenues to charity. And how much money did the St Jude promotions affect their donations? You know, how advertising works? Spend money to make more money.

The problem here is you say they spent X amount on advertising the charity and leave out the part about those advertising dollars being spent to get more people to donate money. That also doesn't show me how the PGA is hoarding money somewhere. How exactly does it benefit the Tour's coffers to spend money advertising for a charity? Maybe I'll help you here

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During a preview event at TPC Southwind today, FedEx St. Jude Championship tournament officials announced a charitable impact figure of over $8.6 million was generated for the St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital from the 2021 World Golf Championships-FedEx St. Jude Invitational.


and then there's this
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“St. Jude also gets other pass-through benefits like television exposure this week on TV, countless mentions in newspapers across America. The title sponsorship on the PGA tour routinely goes for $8 to $10 million a year, and St. Jude has the benefit of being in our title for free.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:14 pm to
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charity watchdog groups have set standards to determine what a responsible charity is, and Charity Navigator says -- at a minimum -- 65 percent of the money raised should be spent on providing actual charity.


I guess we should just take their opinion at face value. Charity Navigator is also a 501(c)(3). Charity Navigator in 2021 filed returns claiming $5,855,509 in gross revenues and $4,183,209 in expenses. Their CEO makes a salary equal to ~4% of their gross revenue (Monahan's is about .01% of the Tour's). So doesn't look like they're donating 65% of their revenues to charity either. Weird
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