re: If homosexuals are “born that way”

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This is a relatively compelling argument.

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I find it extremely non-compelling. People make webs of choices all the time that lead them to become outcasts. People with bad dispositions weren’t born that way. I could hear them say “Why would I choose to be grumpy when I would fit in society so much better if I had a sunny disposition?”

Other obvious examples include addicts of all varieties. (There is a likely genetic component to addiction, but it is not genetic in the sense that is commonly argued with homosexuality.)