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re: 'The Last of Us' Episode 3 Gamers Thread: Spoilers!! Complaints, Part 2 talk allowed

Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:00 am to
what's it like to live in the level of denial you live in? is ignorance truly bliss?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:02 am to
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what's it like to live in the level of denial you live in? is ignorance truly bliss?


What I stated is obviously correct and should be obvious to anyone who has been gaming for a long time. "Representation" is still mostly nonexistent in video games because gamers aren't interested.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 9:44 am to
So, you keep shitting up the non-gamer thread....

In the game, we get exactly 3 possible references to Bill being gay:

1. Bill states, "Once upon a time I had someone I cared about. It was a partner. Somebody I had to look after. And in this world that sort of shite's good for one thing: gettin' ya killed. So, you know what I did? I wisened the frick up. And I realized it's gotta be just me."

2. Ellie finds gay porn among Bill's belongings, obviously the most compelling evidence.

3. Bill is visibly, albeit briefly, shaken upon discovering Frank's body swinging from the rafters of a house in a nearby neighborhood.

We can reasonably infer Bill's gay with the totality of references, although it's never explicitly stated. Further, we get nothing implying Frank is gay. Only way to conclude that is to infer some serious conclusions from an unreliable source (Bill, who we already know lied about how he and Frank went their separate ways). Lastly, we really have to reach to infer Bill and Frank had a romantic relationship of any kind. Instead, we learn Frank hates Bill's guts so much, he preferred getting infected and dying instead of spending another day with Bill. How romantic.

And on top of all of that, literally nothing in the last episode occurs in the game and Bill & Frank have a completely different ending.

So, fkn stop with the bullshite. Stop pretending Druckmann saying something outside the game means it happened in the game. He could say Tommy is a cross-dresser and has drag queen story hour with the children of Jackson for all I care. It didn't happen in the game, so stating or implying such is pure social credit scoring, nothing more.

Sure, they could have had Bill & Frank be in a relationship and it doesn't retcon the game. But they knew they couldn't have a gay relationship crash and burn with one saying he hates the other. Plus, if they had explored Ish's story, it would have accomplished the exact same thing without a gay relationship. Neil wanted his social credits, so instead of telling a story that already exists, he retconned Bill & Frank. Are you more embarrassed or insulted to be pandered to like this?

For supposed learned TLOU gamers, some of you leave a lot to be desired. And LOL for muh homophobia. Yeah, I've operated under the notion Bill was gay and Ellie is a lesbian for a decade now, but consider TLOU1 one of my favorite games of all time. What a phobe
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