re: Aren't all these Republican doomsdayers just proving our point?

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But we're not discussing whether or not Republican voters are the same as Democrat voters. So my argument is the relevant one, and yours is dodging.

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What is your argument?

This was the post I replied to:

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You just got done being critical of an echo chamber that exists on this board, and then, as an attorney no less, you argue that Hobbs is an Evangelical social conservative policy as opposed to a legal matter, correctly called by SCOTUS.

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And I responded:

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My personal analysis/opinion and how the population as a whole see Hobbs are 2 different things.

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You were discussing interpretation and making an implicit ad hom attack b/c you were asserting I didn't understand the legal issues of Hobbs, when that wasn't the point.

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we're not discussing whether or not Republican voters are the same as Democrat voters.

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Go back in the discussion tree:

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A wave of evangelical social conservatism in politics/policy is not.

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I said:

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I imagine over half the country would disagree with this, post-Hobbs.

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I didn't bring up DEM/GOP just "over half the country" and I stand by that.

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There is no Evangelical social conservative movement that's got any sort of traction in the federal government.

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And, again, I'd assume over half the country would disagree with this re: Hobbs

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Get out of your echo chamber, bro, and stop imagining Trump is not GOPe. He is an example that supports my argument, not yours.

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Get out of your echo chamber, bro, and stop imagining Trump is not GOPe. He is an example that supports my argument, not yours.

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Trump was the most extreme "reign in federal spending" candidate, and couldn't do anything more than historic spending. Who are these other options to show their convictions v. the reality of governing?

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Take their money away would work.

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So not theater, fantasy.

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Well, what should a party be doing that is diametrically opposed to what the other party (in control) is trying to pass? Fight? Tussle? Call it what you want but putting up little opposition is consistent with my argument.

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People pushing "muh fight" just misrepresent negotiation and working with large groups of people to try to achieve goals.

If you add in an incorrect opinion that your preferred policies are more popular than they are, you will ignore how difficult it is to pass legislation that is severely unpopular.