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Saw someone post stock splits are not a positive, is this true?

Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted by secfballfan
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:58 pm
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Saw this tweet, is there real evidence of this?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:04 pm to
Certainly depends on why the stock is splitting, what the dilution effect ultimately is, etc. For "real" stocks of real companies, a split during a "real" growth phase (business is either experiencing significant, sustainable growth, profitability spikes and/or the valuation spikes), those splits are usually positive to very positive.

If the stock is splitting for other reasons - to reduce minority shareholders' ability to affect board composition or other backdoor, Machiavellian reasons and the common shareholder is getting screwed, then that's bad.

ETA: I read/responded solely to your comment, not the actual tweet. The tweet doesn't say what you suggest it says. It says that a split is not a factor in buying/selling the stock. No assessment/judgment on whether or not splits are positive. Regardless, I stand by my statement.

This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 1:08 pm
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 1:57 pm to
Technically speaking, stock splits are considered neutral since the total market cap remains unchanged and there is no change in your proportional ownership.

The idea is to make stocks seem more attractive to investors, so there's often a run up in price due to increased demand when a split is announced. It's a fun little game in market psychology.
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

The idea is to make stocks seem more attractive to investors, so there's often a run up in price due to increased demand when a split is announced.


Which usually happens so I'd say its a positive in most cases.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15852 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 2:15 pm to
Id say my purchase of AMZN, GOGG,TSLA right around their split dates has been a real big negative
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:36 pm to
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what the dilution effect ultimately is, etc.


Not sure how there is dilution from a stock split.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7929 posts
Posted on 1/4/23 at 3:49 pm to
Stock splits only mean something in a free money world where there's a ton of retail dumb money looking for a home, so the last 2 years, stocks would actually move based on the meaningless action. It's like I'm giving you a pizza split into 8 pieces instead of 6 pieces but the quantity of pizza is not changing at all. Only people not intelligent would pay more for the same amount of pizza.

Other than that, if you think people trading volume in options that don't have capital to afford the options for the higher ticker price, that's always been the one tangible thing people can throw in. However people with enough capital to move the needle on the needle thats on the needle, it doesn't effect.


So in summary, I'd say stock split momentum is a great indicator of how dumb or frothy a market is.
This post was edited on 1/4/23 at 3:54 pm
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