It's not just an instant runoff. In a run off, there is still typically advertisements. There may be debates. There may be additional lobbying for votes. You don't get that when your vote is discarded because he or she didn't get enough of the total votes. Also, if there is a run off, that means that you've already had the opportunity to vote for your candidate and have your vote count already.

In addition, if you do participate in the ranking, your vote may go to someone you actually don't like and don't want to represent you. You vote for your #1 with the hopes that he or she wins, and fill in the rest of the ballot without much of a care, but if your #1 is eliminated early, your vote is now cast for someone you may not actually want to win (there may be a huge preference gap between #1 and #2, or #2 and #3, and so on). So, your choice is to have your vote thrown out, or have it go to someone you don't actually want.

Like I said: this system can end up with candidates getting elected who have hardly any support from the electorate. Is that how we want a representative republic to work?

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Posted by Indefatigable

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Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:28 pm to FooManChoo

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And your vote gets thrown out if your #1 doesn't win right away.

Only if your #1 was the lowest vote-getter in the first round. How is that different than your candidate not being in the top two for a traditional runoff?

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Exactly, and it's thrown out because of it.

Again, only if your candidate is eliminated.

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Except you did vote, and your vote doesn't ultimately count.

If your candidate was eliminated, the only reason you don’t get a runoff vote is because you chose not to vote in the runoff. That is not any different than a traditional runoff election.

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You vote for your #1 with the hopes that he or she wins, and fill in the rest of the ballot without much of a care, but if your #1 is eliminated early, your vote is now cast for someone you may not actually want to win (there may be a huge preference gap between #1 and #2, or #2 and #3, and so on

That bolden scenario just makes you a total dumbass. Besides, how is that any different from a regular runoff?

If I supported the Libertarian loser in this years GA senate election, my candidate wasn’t in the runoff. Do I get to whine that it’s un-Democratic that I was forced to choose between Warnock and Walker?

Your criticism of RCV comes down to “voters are too stupid to actually inform themselves and think”

This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 3:31 pm

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