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Scott McKays Blog - Recruiting & Commitments
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:48 pm
Good News On Recruiting (Maybe): A couple of rumors surfaced over the weekend on recruiting which might take the sting off the Georgia loss a little. First of all, supposedly LSU got a commitment from Paris, TN Henry County fullback Dominique Allen, a 5-11, 235-pound monster who had been a Tennessee commitment. Allen would fill a definite need at the position for LSU with Quinn Johnson leaving after this year, and if he can be the kind of blocker Johnson is it could really help keep the Tiger running game up at a high level in the future.
No major recruiting service has had a story on Allen since the weekend, though, so it's worth taking that rumor with a grain of salt. Ditto for another report which says Andre Debose of Seminole High in Sanford, Florida, one of the top wide receivers in the country, has committed to LSU.
On the stories about Craig Loston committing last week, which there hasn't been any confirmation of, here's something from TigerGumbo.com to explain a bit of what's going on. It sounds like everything but a press conference has happened to indicate Loston is a Tiger commitment (and like Allen he'd be in a position to start as a freshman at LSU).
Another rumor says Rueben Randle will commit to Alabama this week. I'll believe that when I see it - the Gumps have been claiming imminent commitments from Louisiana prep stars since Nick Saban got there, and they've been wrong almost every time.
Finally, the word from the Jamarkus McFarland camp was that he had a terrific visit to Baton Rouge and LSU is in great shape for him. McFarland's mother made the trip with him and she was impressed; the mom was a primary influence on Texas' side in the battle for McFarland's services, with the player himself possibly leaning to LSU. If the Tigers have managed to get on Mom's good side, they might be holding the high card on this one over Texas and Oklahoma.
No major recruiting service has had a story on Allen since the weekend, though, so it's worth taking that rumor with a grain of salt. Ditto for another report which says Andre Debose of Seminole High in Sanford, Florida, one of the top wide receivers in the country, has committed to LSU.
On the stories about Craig Loston committing last week, which there hasn't been any confirmation of, here's something from TigerGumbo.com to explain a bit of what's going on. It sounds like everything but a press conference has happened to indicate Loston is a Tiger commitment (and like Allen he'd be in a position to start as a freshman at LSU).
Another rumor says Rueben Randle will commit to Alabama this week. I'll believe that when I see it - the Gumps have been claiming imminent commitments from Louisiana prep stars since Nick Saban got there, and they've been wrong almost every time.
Finally, the word from the Jamarkus McFarland camp was that he had a terrific visit to Baton Rouge and LSU is in great shape for him. McFarland's mother made the trip with him and she was impressed; the mom was a primary influence on Texas' side in the battle for McFarland's services, with the player himself possibly leaning to LSU. If the Tigers have managed to get on Mom's good side, they might be holding the high card on this one over Texas and Oklahoma.
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Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:55 pm to mytigger
Sounds good, well everything except the RR part. 
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:55 pm to mytigger
How credible is this guy?
It sounds like he just read TSD...does he have independent sources or just a subscription like the rest of us?
It sounds like he just read TSD...does he have independent sources or just a subscription like the rest of us?
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:57 pm to Slickback
I dont think the RR shite is true...we will know on Wednesday, but I think its more smoke from Gumpland.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:03 pm to mytigger
RR shite I think is just smoke, why would he commit to Bama when he is schedueled to vist the Bama vs LSU game in 2 weeks. Not to mention he said himself that he wouldn't really concentrate on that stuff until his season was over. Bama lies are running rampant as of late with not just him, but other LA kids. JM news is great and I think we are a real threat to Texas and OU now.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:04 pm to Tiger Attorney
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I think its more smoke from Gumpland.
Let's hope so, because I'm in no mood for the post-nuclear holocaust world that would be the Recruiting Board if this happened.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:05 pm to Cody101786
the RR stuff cant be true, he is in the middle of a playoff bound football season and regardless he goes to school who has recently sent their players straight to BR.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:09 pm to seeLSUrun
Don't believe the RR rumor. Someone is just trying to increase the suicide rate of TD posters 
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:12 pm to deuce985
forget about the RR rumors, cuz that's what they are. Nobody knows anything.
Let's focus on that McFarland stuff. That's some damn good news. Miles is the master of recruiting parents.
Let's focus on that McFarland stuff. That's some damn good news. Miles is the master of recruiting parents.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:13 pm to deuce985
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Don't believe the RR rumor. Someone is just trying to increase the suicide rate of TD posters
I wish whomever it is, he would take this crusade to the Rant.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:14 pm to Luke4LSU
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:31 pm to seeLSUrun
So yall want to say the RR stuff is rumor but then say that the JM stuff is not?
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:37 pm to mattflynn15
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So yall want to say the RR stuff is rumor but then say that the JM stuff is not?
JM talks about recruiting.
RR does not.
You can see interviews with JM and watch videos of him talking about the process.
RR's own brother even maintains that RR really has no idea where he's gonna end up right now.
So yeah, I do.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:44 pm to mattflynn15
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So yall want to say the RR stuff is rumor but then say that the JM stuff is not?
Exactly.
Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but if I hear a rumor about something important (and with respect to recruiting at LSU, recruiting of the best player in the state is an important topic), I take it seriously unless I have credible evidence that it is bogus. Maybe that makes me gullible, but it also keeps me from being vulnerable. But anyway...back to recruiting
Thus, I've been asking about this RR situation, and all I've gotten so far is "Don't worry, it's PROBABLY just Bammers flaming", or "RR WILL BE a Tiger" (but with nothing to back that up), and to me it all sounds like wishful thinking from folks who are choosing to have blinders on and ignore the fact that almost all of LA's top recruits (whether they ended up there in the past or not), for WHATEVER REASON, have Bama as one of their schools of interest, where that wasn't the case in the Mike Shula Bama era.
Granted, those in the know in recruiting are also saying that RR will end up at LSU (at least those in the know on LSU recruiting...I hear Bama's recruiting experts are singing a different tune), but I tend to think that sometimes recruits tell the LSU recruiting guy what he thinks the LSU recruiting guy wants to hear, and the same for Bama. It's not that the recruiting guys don't know what they're doing or don't understand this, I just tend to believe "I believe RR will be a Tiger BECAUSE...." more than "RR will be a Tiger".
It's the ignoring of anything negative with regards to a recruit by people that are normally in the know that makes me nervous. Again...not saying they're wrong...it just makes me nervous.
This post was edited on 10/27/08 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:49 pm to Luke4LSU
well you have to use history when a prospect wont talk much, Bastrop sent Benton to us and has Downs on the way, who have they recently(or ever) sent to bama and which city is closer to his family, BR or Tuscaloosa? its well known how important family is to him. in the end he has three things working in LSU favor to land him, proximity to home, school loyalty to LSU and early playing time(he is a player you do not keep off the field his freshman year). he only has 1 of those three with bama in playing time, im not saying he comes to LSU but i havent heard anyone with any real info saying that he is even a lean to bama much less about to commit
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:17 pm to seeLSUrun
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well you have to use history when a prospect wont talk much
I realize that. I'm relatively knew to recruiting, so I definitely take what you guys say who have shown to know what they're talking about with more weight than others.
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Bastrop sent Benton to us and has Downs on the way, who have they recently(or ever) sent to bama
I don't think anyone, but I don't know how much that matters when you're talking about an OOS school and a prospect of this caliber.
How many players has Cy-Ridge sent to LSU before RS?
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which city is closer to his family, BR or Tuscaloosa?
BR, but both are just a long drive away. Just about another 1-1/2 hours to Tuscalooser.
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in the end he has three things working in LSU favor to land him, proximity to home, school loyalty to LSU and early playing time
Proximity to home IS better in BR.
From what I understand, he was never an LSU fan growing up, so the only thing I could see would be that he is a LA kid and LSU is the LA school...however, I could also see this as LA people pressuring a kid to go to LSU, and that driving him away.
As far as early playing time, like you said, he'll play as a freshman wherever he goes, so that's kindof a wash IMO.
I appreciate the good input. Just being cautiously-optimistic out loud, I guess.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:19 pm to Luke4LSU
everyone should feel the same, i feel like he'll end up here but have absolutely no first hand evidence to support that
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:30 pm to Luke4LSU
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I don't think anyone, but I don't know how much that matters when you're talking about an OOS school and a prospect of this caliber.
but Bastrop is a HUGE pro LSU town..
also, Claude Wroten came to LSU via juco, out of Bastrop
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:32 pm to mattflynn15
The JM "rumor" is that the kid and family had a great time and that LSU could possibly have the upper hand now right after the visit. Whoopty-frigging-do, what a hot rumor.
The RR rumor is that RR will commit to Bama on Wednesday.
Do you seen any difference between the two that might make one rumor more believable or less relevant than the other?
The RR rumor is that RR will commit to Bama on Wednesday.
Do you seen any difference between the two that might make one rumor more believable or less relevant than the other?
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:37 pm to seeLSUrun
Benton is one of RR's best friends. I don't know if they still are but seeing as Benton works out with Bastrop's team still, I imagine he is.
Family is important to RR but proximity isn't a factor when looking at Bama. Some of you need to go look at a map and compare distances from Bastrop to Bama/LSU.
All this speculation that hes committing on Wednesday has shown no credibility whatsoever(yet at least). The only people who know where RR is going, is RR and his family. His brother has directly come on here and said he still doesn't know where hes going to go because hes taking it slow. So that is leading me to believe the rumor is bs and the fact his own brother talks about how shy he is, which is one reason he doesn't talk about his recruiting much. So whoever claims to have the "know" about RR, should take it with a grain of salt unless its a very credible source. Even then, the guys in the "know" are still only speculating where RR is going. He holds it tightly to his chest but I will say this, their has been a few subtle things that pointed towards LSU so far in this process. Is he a LSU lock? No. Is Bama very much in it and more so than people think? Probably yes...
I think as LSU's season unfolds, will play out where he goes. Right now, Bama has no advantage on LSU whatsoever. The thing they have going for them, is they're on the rise. That is it. So as far as football goes, its probably about even with Bama. Last I checked, they run the ball way more than they do passing because that is the type of team they are. LSU does the same but mostly because of our QB situation. It will be much more balanced in the future. RR is a smart kid and knows our situation. So the deciding factor may come down to which location and academics he likes better and nobody can say for sure who is the winner there. Different strokes for different folks
Family is important to RR but proximity isn't a factor when looking at Bama. Some of you need to go look at a map and compare distances from Bastrop to Bama/LSU.
All this speculation that hes committing on Wednesday has shown no credibility whatsoever(yet at least
). The only people who know where RR is going, is RR and his family. His brother has directly come on here and said he still doesn't know where hes going to go because hes taking it slow. So that is leading me to believe the rumor is bs and the fact his own brother talks about how shy he is, which is one reason he doesn't talk about his recruiting much. So whoever claims to have the "know" about RR, should take it with a grain of salt unless its a very credible source. Even then, the guys in the "know" are still only speculating where RR is going. He holds it tightly to his chest but I will say this, their has been a few subtle things that pointed towards LSU so far in this process. Is he a LSU lock? No. Is Bama very much in it and more so than people think? Probably yes... I think as LSU's season unfolds, will play out where he goes. Right now, Bama has no advantage on LSU whatsoever. The thing they have going for them, is they're on the rise. That is it. So as far as football goes, its probably about even with Bama. Last I checked, they run the ball way more than they do passing because that is the type of team they are. LSU does the same but mostly because of our QB situation. It will be much more balanced in the future. RR is a smart kid and knows our situation. So the deciding factor may come down to which location and academics he likes better and nobody can say for sure who is the winner there. Different strokes for different folks
This post was edited on 10/27/08 at 3:41 pm
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