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Post Malone crowds
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:30 pm
I'm a little late to the hip-hop fusion party, as over the past month I have just started giving a listen to the Post Malone, Mac Miller and Drake catalogues.
I'm drawn more to Post Malone lately as I'm discovering his genre versatility (hip hop, pop, rock, country & bluegrass) and digging his legit vocal talent. So I've checked out a handful of PM's "concerts" on youtube. Like most hip hop artists, the showmanship is a relative bore as it is just him singing solo on stage with a mic while smoking, drinking & stumbling, but credit to him, he actually sounds good live, much like his album tracks.
But I've noticed the Gen Z crowds intensely sing-along to every single Post Malone song at every single concert. In theory, he doesn't even need to be there, it's like mass karaoke. I'd actually kind of be pissed if I was in the audience trying to hear him, (though the non-stop mass singing is better than the non-stop mass screaming the Beatles experienced). I've witnessed fervent audience participation for certain singers/certain songs, but not at this level of commitment.
Question: Is Post Malone's songs really that sing-along-able... or is this just a Gen Z concert/fest/rave-ish thing that recently started brewing?
EDIT: Yeah, it's a Gen Z thing. Evidence provided 7 posts down.
I'm drawn more to Post Malone lately as I'm discovering his genre versatility (hip hop, pop, rock, country & bluegrass) and digging his legit vocal talent. So I've checked out a handful of PM's "concerts" on youtube. Like most hip hop artists, the showmanship is a relative bore as it is just him singing solo on stage with a mic while smoking, drinking & stumbling, but credit to him, he actually sounds good live, much like his album tracks.
But I've noticed the Gen Z crowds intensely sing-along to every single Post Malone song at every single concert. In theory, he doesn't even need to be there, it's like mass karaoke. I'd actually kind of be pissed if I was in the audience trying to hear him, (though the non-stop mass singing is better than the non-stop mass screaming the Beatles experienced). I've witnessed fervent audience participation for certain singers/certain songs, but not at this level of commitment.
Question: Is Post Malone's songs really that sing-along-able... or is this just a Gen Z concert/fest/rave-ish thing that recently started brewing?
EDIT: Yeah, it's a Gen Z thing. Evidence provided 7 posts down.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 1:37 pm
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:49 pm to LSUFreek
quote:well thats rap, hip hop and most pop
it's like mass karaoke
Posted on 7/17/22 at 12:05 am to SEClint
The funny thing about Post Malone is that he’s a bit of a country boy. He outright said he only does Hip-Hop for the money. Said he’d prefer to do country music. He’s pretty good at it too. Definitely better than most country radio.
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This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 12:09 am
Posted on 7/17/22 at 4:10 am to diddlydawg7
Yeah, I saw him online sing bluegrass with Billy Strings and then sing an Elvis tune with Blake Shelton & Hootie. And in that Matthew McConaughey-produced charity concert you linked in your post, his cover of Brad Paisley's "I'm Gonna Miss Her" is arguably the better country cover. His Texan roots definitely shine through. (BTW, his dad worked (or still works?) for the Cowboys.)
As far as money-making goes, big-time country artists like Garth & Shania are worth around $400 million each, while a comparable hip hop artist like Drake is worth around $250 million (though other rappers like Kanye, Dre, Jay Z made billions investing in non-hip-hop business ventures). Point is, Post Malone's vocals could easily make hundreds of millions as a country artist, but I'd suspect his controversial facial tats would ultimately limit the extent of his appeal in rural America.
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He outright said he only does Hip-Hop for the money. Said he’d prefer to do country music
As far as money-making goes, big-time country artists like Garth & Shania are worth around $400 million each, while a comparable hip hop artist like Drake is worth around $250 million (though other rappers like Kanye, Dre, Jay Z made billions investing in non-hip-hop business ventures). Point is, Post Malone's vocals could easily make hundreds of millions as a country artist, but I'd suspect his controversial facial tats would ultimately limit the extent of his appeal in rural America.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 7:36 am to LSUFreek
I’m not even a huge post Malone fan, but I saw him live at the hard rock after the f1 event in Miami last year.
Just like you said, it was him alone singing on stage. I had a good time and yes…his most popular tracks are great to sing along to. White Iverson is a personal favorite of mine.
Side note-I’d love to attend a rappers event who has a live drummer…think that’d be cool
Just like you said, it was him alone singing on stage. I had a good time and yes…his most popular tracks are great to sing along to. White Iverson is a personal favorite of mine.
Side note-I’d love to attend a rappers event who has a live drummer…think that’d be cool
Posted on 7/17/22 at 9:16 am to LSUFreek
I'm going to guess you never saw a Grateful Dead concert.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:34 am to LSUFreek
As more and more music is created via laptop, the younger crowds are becoming more accepting/familiar with the lack of live instrumentation.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:02 pm to Mizooag94
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I'm going to guess you never saw a Grateful Dead concert.
I just skimmed thru 3 Grateful Dead concerts and while the crowd is active, it is mostly swaying & vibing to the jams, not song after song choir singing.
I’m just learning this sing-along phenomenon is a Gen Z thing. I watched an Ed Sheeran concert, Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber concerts and the Gen Zers are singing every lyric of ever song in the concert just like they do for Post Malone.
Here’s a bonus compilation of various hip hop concerts with mass karaoke
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:10 pm to shutterspeed
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As more and more music is created via laptop, the younger crowds are becoming more accepting/familiar with the lack of live instrumentation
I started to notice a few years back when Tomorrowland and other European EDM/DJ concerts were taking place, that these kids don’t care about paying to see a showman, but rather just showing up to smoke, drink, and jump up & down when the crescendo is highest and the bass drops.
I can only assume this has carried over to the states and kids don’t know what a showman should look like. It must be more about the communal experience than paying to see a performance.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:37 pm to LSUFreek
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these kids don’t care about paying to see a showman
I think they definitely want to see a "showman." They just don't care that he/she is playing to tracks on a laptop rather than a live band anymore. Just as you've mentioned, they come to see Post Malone, or Drake, or DeadMau3, or Starcadian, or Kavinsky, or whomever the showperson is.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 1:45 pm to shutterspeed
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they come to see Post Malone, or Drake, or DeadMau3, or Starcadian, or Kavinsky, or whomever the showperson is.
If they had the experience of seeing Mick Jagger, Freddie Mercury, Prince, Michael Jackson, Bruno Mars, etc...they'd know what a showman is.
Malone, Drake, etc don't command the stage and put on a show. They are not showmen. They are more like emcees. Their audiences don't know what they are missing.
Here’s Michael Jackson putting on a show, with no band, just lip syncing
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:25 pm to LSUFreek
I'm not disagreeing with you. But I think we're veering into "get off my lawn" territory. These new personalities are who the kids are currently into. And we all know that popular music has always been about image and has always catered to the youngest generation.
I imagine many of the examples you mentioned probably seem silly to kids today.
I imagine many of the examples you mentioned probably seem silly to kids today.
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