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re: WESTWORLD Seasn 4 *season long discussion thread*
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:53 pm to vilma4prez
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:53 pm to vilma4prez
I think we’re headed for a Battlestar Galactica type ending.
I don’t really want to see a re-do, but I think that is what a lot of the next season will be. We’ll see.
ETA: New theory I’ve been thinking on. We know Delores was the first AI. Wasn’t the sublime already there way back in the time of S1 and S2, created by Ford? Theory is that Delores is running the Sublime and every single thing we have seen from the very beginning is her running simulation after simulation. This is a layer above what Bernard was doing. And as with Bernard, it is ending with all life ending, human and host. The key is for Delores to figure out what will change this loop. What we saw from her this season already happened prior to S1. I think the key to break the loop ( solve the real maze if you will) is to get William to not break bad after that first trip to the park.
Ok, my head hurts now.
I don’t really want to see a re-do, but I think that is what a lot of the next season will be. We’ll see.
ETA: New theory I’ve been thinking on. We know Delores was the first AI. Wasn’t the sublime already there way back in the time of S1 and S2, created by Ford? Theory is that Delores is running the Sublime and every single thing we have seen from the very beginning is her running simulation after simulation. This is a layer above what Bernard was doing. And as with Bernard, it is ending with all life ending, human and host. The key is for Delores to figure out what will change this loop. What we saw from her this season already happened prior to S1. I think the key to break the loop ( solve the real maze if you will) is to get William to not break bad after that first trip to the park.
Ok, my head hurts now.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 12:33 am
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 11:30 am to wareaglepete
So as I see it, there are two main ways you can interpret the S4 finale:
1. Dolores has been running a simulation all along. Nothing that happened in the first 4 seasons was “real,” it was just one iteration of the simulation (with Bernard’s time in the Sublime being a sim within a sim).
2. Everything was real, including the impending extinction of humanity. Dolores is now allowing humanity to “live on” in the sense that she has brought them into the sublime. Hence the high stakes - if they prove to be destructive there, they could wipe out all that’s left.
Honestly, I think #1 is a cop out. #2 is actually a pretty elegant ending for the series IMHO. Humanity basically transcends in digital form, living beyond our physical extinction. But Bernard’s “one more time around the loop” comment leaves me skeptical.
I suspect they left it ambiguous because they don’t know whether they are getting renewed. It’s unfortunate because I think they could have nailed a series ending if they committed to it.
1. Dolores has been running a simulation all along. Nothing that happened in the first 4 seasons was “real,” it was just one iteration of the simulation (with Bernard’s time in the Sublime being a sim within a sim).
2. Everything was real, including the impending extinction of humanity. Dolores is now allowing humanity to “live on” in the sense that she has brought them into the sublime. Hence the high stakes - if they prove to be destructive there, they could wipe out all that’s left.
Honestly, I think #1 is a cop out. #2 is actually a pretty elegant ending for the series IMHO. Humanity basically transcends in digital form, living beyond our physical extinction. But Bernard’s “one more time around the loop” comment leaves me skeptical.
I suspect they left it ambiguous because they don’t know whether they are getting renewed. It’s unfortunate because I think they could have nailed a series ending if they committed to it.
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