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"Most of the US is Obese. Most of the US isn’t even healthy. Obesity is in fact a chronic/pre existing condition.
We have at least 70 million obese Adult Americans. Obese patients are almost always sicker and harder to care for. Operating is harder - patient positioning, anatomy is not textbook at all etc. Taking care of an obese patient on a vent, everything I said x100. We have some potential nightmares ahead of us."
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In case you missed that, it's from a doctor on my friends list, who is a urologist, but because of being short staffed, is being called to help with this pandemic.
I REALLY hope after this has cleared that...
- We stop promoting body positivity
- We stop promoting plus sized anything, because we all know you're not big boned
- We stop allowing people to say we're "fat shaming" when we talk about obesity
- We stop allowing social justice warriors to have a voice in this when it affects all of us in some way...LIKE RIGHT frickING NOW.
-We wake the frick up that obesity is a burden on the entire health care system
- We wake the frick up that it's connected to all of the pathologies that are killing people in Italy and that the world's leading expert on infectious disease says it will be one of the biggest factors in American deaths and Covid-19
- We wake up the frick up and change something, anything, EVERYTHING different than what we've been doing so that we aren't the fattest f'n nation in the world.
It's pathetic.
Body positivity has never f'n once...
- Lowered blood pressure
- Improved cholesterol
- Improved health markers
- Lowered chronic inflammation
- Cured diabetes
But...LOSING WEIGHT CAN AND HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
If you're not going to be part of the solution, then stop being part of the problem.
And body positivity is part of the problem.
SJW's are part of the problem.
If this post hurt your feelings, or you are offended by it, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Running away from this message, unfriending me, ignoring the fact that you "don't have poor health right now" is all a part of ignorant rationalization.
If you are overweight/obese, it has been PROVEN through longitudinal studies that you WILL have more health problems than those closer to ideal BMI.
You can get mad, but it doesn't change the facts.
It doesn't change the science.
It doesn't remove the problem that right now, this will get worse before it gets better because we're the fattest nation on the planet. And people need to stop tap dancing around it because you don't like the words "fat" and "obese".
I don't like the words "death" "mortality rate" "ICU" "pandemic".
If there was ever going to be something that would create a paradigm shift in this country, as far as fitness goes, if this doesn't do it...we're hopeless.

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Posted by boxcarbarney

Above all things, be a man

Member since Jul 2007

23440 posts

Posted on 6/8/22 at 9:35 am to boxcarbarney

Also from Paul Carter

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I've written several articles about the obesity problem, and without fail, they either get met with a standing ovation or the hatred intensity of 10,000 suns.
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Clearly this is a very emotional issue for the great majority of people. And any time an issue becomes an overly emotional one, then logic and facts and even common sense tends to go right out the window. Just ask some dude who actually thinks that deadlifts are a back exercise.
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But to go on here, let's deal with the common sense part first.
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People get overweight from eating too much. That's it. That's all. Even in rare medical conditions that people like to bring up, those too can be managed by managing energy balance. -
Genes are often brought up as well. But the fact is, obesity has become an epidemic only in the last few decades. If it was a genetic issue then we'd have seen obesity as a problem in direct correlation with certain genealogy. But there's no pattern. There's no "obesity gene". It's a good bet your ancestors were in fact, not obese.
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In countries where food is more scarce, there is no obesity issue. Zero. 100% of the time, where there's less food there's no obesity. In this case, the cause and correlation is 100% factual.
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And now, unfortunately, we're living in a time where it's considered fat shaming if you talk about the facts related to obesity, like how it's directly connected to various cancers, and type II diabetes.
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Fat activism is a plague, and one that goes out of its way in order to suppress legitimate medical findings and information in order to further the "healthy at every size" movement. Which does far more damage because it is not helping people to actually confront reality. Which is this.....
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YOU CANNOT BE HEALTHY AT EVERY SIZE. If you're obese, your health will crumble, and you'll die due to a obesity related disease. This isn't fat shaming. This is fact.
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Don't be a continued part of the problem. Be a part of the solution

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Posted by AZBadgerFan

Scottsdale, AZ

Member since May 2013

1599 posts

Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:21 am to boxcarbarney

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Obese patients are almost always sicker and harder to care for. Operating is harder - patient positioning, anatomy is not textbook at all etc.

In a previous job I sold orthopedic implants- primarily implants used in total hip & knee reconstructions. You would not believe how many younger obese people (in their 30's & 40's) who were on the OR table getting hip and knee replacements, primarily because of the weight they were carrying around (many were also smokers). I recall one woman in her 40's came in for a total hip and was so fat it took the surgeon over an hour to cut through the fat using cautery to gain access to the femoral neck and femur. I would guess there was 6" of fat he had to cut and retract to gain access to the surgical site and he was cussing up a storm. I've always been committed to my fitness and watching that surgery made me determined to always stay lean, it was that gross.

In addition to the physical and financial ramifications to being obese the mental is just as bad. My personal belief is that there is not one obese person who has good self-esteem and that manifests itself in many different forms (shitty quality of life, low self-esteem, eating disorders, depression, personality disorders, anti-social behavior). It's crippling.

This post was edited on 6/8/22 at 11:41 am

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