I agree. Our warfighting skills and training have been focused on fighting jihadis in the desert. That is why the Army has made a major direction change and is focusing on large-scale peer-to-peer and near-peer warfare again.

I also agree that SOME of the US weapons are not functioning well in the war now due to Russian GPS Jamming. I don't think you can look at the performance of the Abrams we gave Ukraine and say that the US Army's Abrams would suffer similarly. The Army gave them the much less capable version, and Ukraine does not have the organizational history of combined arms operations that the US does. Anyone trying to draw direct comparisons is guilty of grossly underestimating the competition.

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Posted by Darth_Vader

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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:47 pm to Chromdome35

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I also agree that SOME of the US weapons are not functioning well in the war now due to Russian GPS Jamming. I don't think you can look at the performance of the Abrams we gave Ukraine and say that the US Army's Abrams would suffer similarly. The Army gave them the much less capable version, and Ukraine does not have the organizational history of combined arms operations that the US does. Anyone trying to draw direct comparisons is guilty of grossly underestimating the competition.

Yep. If I’m not mistaken the Abrams we’ve given Ukraine are the export version of the M1A1; which to tell you how old and out of date the M1A1 is, that’s the tank I served on in the late 1980s and early 1990s. And the Ukrainians are using the export version of it that doesn’t have the same armor package as the standard Abrams.

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