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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:33 pm to
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How old are you?


I'm old enough to have witnessed it as an adult with children.

Nope your are clueless about the USSR and Reagan. It was colluding with the Saudis due Russia backed the new Mullah led Iran, which bankrupted Russia with Saudi Arabia getting to replace Russia in several crude oil markets and Russia had to lower its price to below cost to produce and get to market. At the same time missile defense system (and one that didn't exist) caused Russia to spend more than it could afford on offensive weapons. Additionally, the small wars backing rebels as proxies in Central America, Africa and Central Asia. Everyone should know about Afghanistan but there was way more than that. This also put additional economical pressure on Russia.

What the Reagan admin knew coming into office was how grossly inefficient Russia's economy was with more waste than our own by a lot. Russia still has a very inefficient economy.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
861 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 5:57 pm to
How does that contradict anything I said, exactly?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
861 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:05 pm to
and I was responding to Trinidad Tiger, look at the quote...

The fact that there was some behind-the-scenes wrangling and agreement to take the nukes out of Italy and Turkey to get the nukes out of Cuba in 1963 was not made public until 1989, when communism collapsed in eastern Europe.

If anybody can prove that incorrect by producing dated newspaper articles about it, you can make everybody change that info in every history site,
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:01 pm to
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What the Reagan admin knew coming into office was how grossly inefficient Russia's economy was with more waste than our own by a lot. Russia still has a very inefficient economy.


Corruption was the "underground" capitalism that kept the USSR running as long as it did.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
861 posts
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:19 pm to
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"It was colluding with the Saudis due Russia backed the new Mullah led Iran..."


And Reagan was at the same time supplying Mullah-led Iran with weapons, as the deal he made for them to not free the hostages while Carter was still in office, then afterwards as a way to fund the Contras...

But to make it even more confusing, the US was also selling arms to Hussein in Iraq and paying him to wage war on Iran. When we shifted policy away from that he got pissy and started threatening Saudi Arabia and Kuwait because he thought we were just full of crap and too twisted up in everything to do anything about it.
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