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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8126 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Neither side is interested in negotiations. The Russians think they have all the momentum and the Ukr government doesn't want to give up territory, which realistically any negotiated settlement would have them losing at least some territory. So the stalemate continues.

The big sticking point is Russia demanding "neutrality" from Ukraine.

Russia's peace requirements:
1) Ukraine must disarm and eliminate its current army
2) Ukraine's current government must resign/quit
3) Russia will oversee the election/implementation of a new government
4) Ukraine may not join EU/NATO now or ever

The last point is the non-starter. Ukraine has "joining the EU/moving towards joining the EU" as a staple in their constitution.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

The big sticking point is Russia demanding "neutrality" from Ukraine. Russia's peace requirements: 1) Ukraine must disarm and eliminate its current army 2) Ukraine's current government must resign/quit 3) Russia will oversee the election/implementation of a new government 4) Ukraine may not join EU/NATO now or ever The last point is the non-starter. Ukraine has "joining the EU/moving towards joining the EU" as a staple in their constitution.


All negotiable.

1) That’s not reasonable, can be negotiated out.

2) That’s reasonable, the tee shirt wearing comedian and his crooked cohorts need to go. Quit postponing elections.

3) Not reasonable, can be negotiated out.

4) Joining the EU is fine. No for joining NATO.

This all could’ve been fixed a long time ago, it’s just another example of the CIA and MIC sticking their noses where they don’t belong. Now billions of dollars and untold numbers of lives have been ruined.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20049 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 4:27 pm to
Russia has a great location to be the commercial gateway between east and west, but Putin wants to be Peter The Great's second coming. That's delusional, arrogant and foolish all rolled up into one.
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