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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:58 am to Auburn1968
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:58 am to Auburn1968
It is also one of the primary (prob #1) reasons for the overall decline in America.
All those shut down manufacturing facilities across the country represented blue collar middle class jobs. Every town with a plant had secondary business (grocery stores, furniture stores, Auto Dealerships, Construction companies, etc...) that serviced the communities of people that worked at those plants.
Plant shuts down, all of the secondary business shuts down with it. Whats left is mainly service industry such as Nail salons, vape stores, cell phone dealers, fast food places where the jobs are low paying and low skill. This drives poverty which drives crime, vandalism, drug use, etc..
At the end of WW2, my Grandfather started a furniture store in Camden Arkansas, right next to the store was an IP Papermill. That papermill was the foundation of the Camden economy. Beyond the people it directly employeed, there were thousands of people who's jobs were directly linked to that mill. When the mill closed, the town died, the population is down over 25% and the poverty levels which were already high, skyrocketed.
The quickest way to "fix" America is to restore our industrial base.
All those shut down manufacturing facilities across the country represented blue collar middle class jobs. Every town with a plant had secondary business (grocery stores, furniture stores, Auto Dealerships, Construction companies, etc...) that serviced the communities of people that worked at those plants.
Plant shuts down, all of the secondary business shuts down with it. Whats left is mainly service industry such as Nail salons, vape stores, cell phone dealers, fast food places where the jobs are low paying and low skill. This drives poverty which drives crime, vandalism, drug use, etc..
At the end of WW2, my Grandfather started a furniture store in Camden Arkansas, right next to the store was an IP Papermill. That papermill was the foundation of the Camden economy. Beyond the people it directly employeed, there were thousands of people who's jobs were directly linked to that mill. When the mill closed, the town died, the population is down over 25% and the poverty levels which were already high, skyrocketed.
The quickest way to "fix" America is to restore our industrial base.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 12:03 pm
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:33 pm to Chromdome35
Paper mills shutdown in large due lack of exports to China after China started making their own paper. Shipload after shipload was loaded out of Savannah and Gulf Coast ports in the 1980's.
Then IP shutdown more papermills, many had recently gone through full process controls updating because they cut a deal with Russia to be supplied all the hardwood timber than could handle and a brand new giant papermill there. This was in the early 2000's
Most of those old sites ain't there anymore. China's scrap demand from 2005-2008 made it profitable to demolish almost all of them.
Then IP shutdown more papermills, many had recently gone through full process controls updating because they cut a deal with Russia to be supplied all the hardwood timber than could handle and a brand new giant papermill there. This was in the early 2000's
Most of those old sites ain't there anymore. China's scrap demand from 2005-2008 made it profitable to demolish almost all of them.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:46 pm to Chromdome35
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At the end of WW2, my Grandfather started a furniture store in Camden Arkansas, right next to the store was an IP Papermill. That papermill was the foundation of the Camden economy. Beyond the people it directly employeed, there were thousands of people who's jobs were directly linked to that mill. When the mill closed, the town died, the population is down over 25% and the poverty levels which were already high, skyrocketed.
Spent three weeks in Japan and Korea before covid. I didn't see any of the decay we see here anywhere.
Years ago we went camping up on Moosehead lake in Maine. Drove up via Boston, but drove back by the interior roads to see what it looked like.
There was a great deal of poverty, rundown homes, cars up on blocks, unpainted houses, lawns not mowed and other visible signs of want.
Farther down the road things started looking better. Houses maintained, newer cars, lawns mowed and such. At the center of the improvement was a crossroad with one stoplight and a very old, ramshackle fish canning factory on the corner. That old factory radiated its economy for 20 or so miles around.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 2:48 pm
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