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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by MNCTigah
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 6:54 pm to
I think there is validity in Kotkin's argument that the industrial technology transfer from the U.S. to the Soviets in the 1930's played a greater role than actual wartime arms and supplies via Lend Lease, which is the common narrative.

Setting aside mechanical performance in what we provided and well known strategic German blunders, Soviet industry in World War II overwhelmed German output.

They manufactured 95K wartime tanks and self propelled artillery vs Germany's 54K. Some of that surplus being used in current conflict... lol. Combat aircraft was 108k to 79k.

Amongst other supplies, the U.S. Embassy puts U.S. tanks via Lend Lease at 13k.

If not for the corruption and general thievery, I've always thought that Russian industrial capacity was their strategic advantage over Ukraine.

ETA: I originally wasn't aware of pre-war American industrial influences on Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. A generalized background at American Heritage.

This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

They manufactured 95K wartime tanks and self propelled artillery vs Germany's 54K. Some of that surplus being used in current conflict... lol. Combat aircraft was 108k to 79k.


Germans were wrongly focused on overengineered and built with too much quality, the Russian strategy was to build as much as possible, at the end if the day it didn't matter. A tank is going to get shot up before it fails mechanically. There are books written about this.

Lol muh Ukraine, you simps
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 7:11 pm
Posted by MNCTigah
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:57 am to
Absent this year's conditions and demands, the prior grain deal allowed Russia to export it's own agricultural and fertilizer products... exempt from U.S. and EU sanctions.

The Russian's hid behind altruism and a concern for global food security. bullshite. It's about money and their own exports.
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