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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:32 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 8:32 am to
Trying to answer my own question, I came across yesterday's article in The Times about possible Harpoon/Storm Shadow deliveries to Ukraine: LINK

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Ukraine is prepared to use British long-range missiles to hit Crimea, the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014, in a potential major escalation of western involvement in the war.

Rishi Sunak promised to send Ukraine more military aid following a visit by President Zelensky to Britain this week. Discussions are now taking place over whether this should include Harpoon anti-ship missiles or air-to-surface Storm Shadows.

Ukrainian defence sources confirmed to The Times that Kyiv would be prepared to use the missiles to strike Crimea following a warning from Zelensky that longer-range weapons from western allies would strike “deep in the occupied territories”.
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Talks are now taking place to decide exactly how many British long-range missiles could be sent, despite previous concerns that enabling Ukraine to launch cross-border strikes on Russia could escalate the conflict.
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Sidharth Kaushal of the Royal United Services Institute, a defence think tank ... added that Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which have already been given to Ukraine by Denmark, could be adapted to be fired from trucks, although they would be less accurate when attacking ground targets. He said it would also be possible to fire Storm Shadow missiles from the ground, but it was more likely that these would be fitted to Ukrainian aircraft.

Kaushal cautioned, however, that sending Storm Shadow missiles to Ukraine would mean Britain going further than the US. Biden has repeatedly refused to provide Army Tactical Missile System projectiles, which have a shorter range.

“Diplomatically, that would put the Biden administration in a very difficult position,” he said. “I imagine that is something policymakers in Whitehall are not necessarily keen to do. It would also enable proper, cross-border strikes against Russia.”


So, the experts at RUSI (who should know) apparently think that Storm Shadow could indeed be rigged to be fired from Ukrainian MiGs.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5850 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:37 am to
Slovakia already has an agreement to have their airspace covered until they get the f-16s promised to them. But there’s no doubt Storm Shadows can be fitted to Ukrainian fighters. It would be better to use their Su-27s though to carry them. Storm Shadow is a heavy munition and the heavier the load the faster you burn fuel and their Su-27s can fly much farther with heavier loads. We fixed a toilet to an A-1 in Vietnam the Ukrainians would fly on the wing of that aircraft and hold onto that thing if it meant being able to strike Crimea. They will figure it out in short order.
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