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After Putin's little action today.

Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26248 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:43 pm
Nordsream 2 is dead.

Book it. Bet on it.

LOL at those welching Germans.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14867 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:43 pm to
Cool?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26248 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:45 pm to
Not for the welching Germans it ain't.
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:46 pm to
Who do you think is going to shut it down? Putin isn’t going to unless the West puts massive sanctions on him. Germany will balk at putting massive sanctions on Russia in order to keep the gas flowing.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26248 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:48 pm to
Not after his actions today. The Germans will be forced to go along with the sanctions. What Putin did today is a big deal.

BTW: Nordsream 2 isn't even in operation yet. The Germans have not sanctioned it. There is no gas running through that pipeline.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Walkingstick
Member since Aug 2019
227 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:49 pm to
Wonder what happens to the DNC money laundering operation of Vlad takes over the country? Hmmmmm
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:50 pm to
I don’t think Germany will go along with sanctions against Gazprom or the ND2 unless Putin launches a wide scale invasion. What Putin did today was put the de facto status quo of the past 8 years into writing.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26248 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:53 pm to
What do you think will happen when Putin rolls the tanks in to drive the Ukrainian army off of the separation line and completely out of the Donbass. He didn't just recognize rebel occupied areas. The government still occupies sections of both republics.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 2:55 pm
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:56 pm to
Then the sanctions will hit. But I’d suspect that Putin will seek to avoid direct military confrontation with Ukraine and instead use some for of asymmetrical warfare/support to separatists to encourage Ukraine to concede the rest of the Donbas.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26248 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 3:04 pm to
Ukraine will not do that unless somehow the west makes them. Zelinsky will not be interested in that at all. If he voluntarily gives up the Donbass he is going to have major political problems in Kiev. Their army cannot be forced back by separatists alone. In 2014 when Ukraine moved to crush the rebels Russia sent troops in to save them. There were Russian troops fighting along side the rebels. And at that time Ukraine's army was much weaker than it is now.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42413 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 3:05 pm to
People of Wales are offended.
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