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re: Supreme Court Blocks Biden's Vaccine Mandate

Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
8651 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:21 pm to
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shocking that you either willfully ignore the wording of the rulings, or are too ignorant to grasp what you read. this does not apply to all healthcare workers. so please quit acting like it does. this only applies to those VOLUNTARILY participating in a government program. in order to participate in this VOLUNTARY program, you have to meet the guidelines. don’t like the guidelines? then don’t fricking participate in a voluntary program. only people that CHOOSE to participate in this program have to get the jab. so what right is violated?

Which hospitals or providers do you suggest they apply at?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
8494 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:48 am to
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Which hospitals or providers do you suggest they apply at?


A. i have literally never asked a place if they do or don't accept medicaid/medicare, so i do not know what facilities do or don't accept it.
B. how many places do or don't accept it is not relevant to the law.


Congress (elected by the people) sets the parameters for the Medicaid/Medicare program. Those parameters have been in effect for years without challenge.


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Congress has authorized the Secretary to impose conditions on the receipt of Medicaid and Medicare funds that “the Secretary finds necessary in the interest of the health and safety of individuals who are furnished services.”



written in clear and plain English, The Secretary of Health and Human Services has the authority to:

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conclude that a vaccine mandate is “necessary to promote and protect patient health and safety” in the face of the ongoing pandemic.


even the people challenging this particular mandate admitted in oral questioning that

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“[T]he Secretary certainly has authority to implement all kinds of infection control measures at these facilities.”


there is also precedence:

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Vaccination re- quirements are a common feature of the provision of healthcare in America: Healthcare workers around the country are ordinarily required to be vaccinated for diseases such as hepatitis B, influenza, and measles, mumps, and rubella.



This case did not even try to challenge the existing law. Just whether or not this mandate falls under that existing rule. And it clearly does.

If you want to argue that the existing rule needs to be changed/abolished/amended/etc. fine.
Thats a different discussion.
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