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Temple pretty much single handily led the comeback against the Cavs by hitting 5 clutch 3's in a row. Something Lonzo has never done, Lonzo is a classic good in the first 40 minutes of a game but shrinks when the spotlight is on and you need him to step up.

And Temple had absolute clunkers this year where his abysmal shooting showed up in close games.

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Something Lonzo has never done, Lonzo is a classic good in the first 40 minutes of a game but shrinks when the spotlight is on and you need him to step up.

Same can be said of BI, however Graham and BI now seem to hvae some synergy the past month in closing games as a team.

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I don't think we let him go for nothing, we got a return, may not have been a great return, but that's what happens when another team wants to overpay a RFA and you don't want to pay that guy that much.

That's also poor leverage on Griffin's part. Graham costed us 2 2nds or a 1st (depending on our record). Chicago traded Lauri away for a 1st. We absolutely lost.

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Personally, add Lonzo and take away Temple and Sato, and we are still sitting at the same record we currently have at best, while having less developmental minutes for Herb, less minutes for Hart to handle the ball and work on that aspect of his game, no trade exception, and no 10 million dollar expiring salary to send out in a trade, and probably no Devonte.

I'd argue we'd be better because that's 30 minutes per game of not having to use sato, temple, and NAW.

Even if you kept Lonzo, Herb still gets minutes because they're contributing different roles. Maybe Hart handles the ball a bit less, but they're essentially using Hart in Zion's role, so that's not a definite either.

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At worst it's a neutral trade to me, maybe could've gotten Chicago to give up a protected 1st like they did for Demar, but that's about it.

We lost. We didn't get ransacked, but we lost.

Cleveland sent a lotto-protected 1st AND Portland sent Derrick jones jr (who is contributing solid minutes) for Cleveland to get Lauri.

We got a 2024 2nd. That's as good as just saying its cash.

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Posted on 1/2/22 at 12:14 pm to htran90

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And Temple had absolute clunkers this year where his abysmal shooting showed up in close games.

He's shooting 39% from 3 this season. Everyone has bad shooting games, even Steph Curry doesn't go 5/10 every night.

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Same can be said of BI, however Graham and BI now seem to hvae some synergy the past month in closing games as a team.

BI doesn't disappear in the big moments, he still tries to close games out. Lonzo tries to stay away from the ball in close games, much like Simmons.

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Graham costed us 2 2nds or a 1st

Any team in the league would give up 2 2nds for Graham, and 90% of them would have given up a lottery protected 1st for him at the deadline last year. This is nowhere near a bad trade.

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Cleveland sent a lotto-protected 1st AND Portland sent Derrick jones jr (who is contributing solid minutes) for Cleveland to get Lauri.

Portland sent a lottery protected 1st to Chicago for them eating DJJ contract who was considered a negative contract at the time, and currently it doesn't look like Chicago will be getting that pick since Portland is a dumpster fire.

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Even if you kept Lonzo, Herb still gets minutes

He still gets minutes, but probably not nearly as many.

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We got a 2024 2nd

And Graham, and a 10 million dollar contract to trade, and a steady veteran hometown presence that the young guys look up to and respect, which is kind of big for this team. You know Herb gained alot more respect for Garret when he stood up to that ref for him, something no other vet we've brought in would have done.

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