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re: Reluctantly A&M will head to PAC 10 with Texas, in my opinion
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:57 pm to OWLFAN86
Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:57 pm to OWLFAN86
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BUT the diff in $$$$$ profits is not even close
That's assuming the TV deal gets done like Larry Scott hopes it will. And that's not guaranteed like the SEC is.
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:59 pm to LSUintheNW
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so you experience two tailgates and so that enables you to lump them all in together?
Well Washington wasn't much of a tailgate either, even with the water stuff. Cool scenery but not a lively atmosphere.
so three for a generalization. You could pick any three SEC games and I would be okay saying that would represent the conference as a whole. Pick three out of a hat, attend their tailgates, and then make a generalization. I'm okay with that.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:03 pm to Books
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Will teams on the West coast w/ no connections to Tex Tech, UT, and OSU tune in when they don't follow CFB all that much to begin w/?
the fans who do follow will
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:04 pm to LSUintheNW
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the fans who do follow will
yeah they probably watched before expansion.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:05 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:Austin TX to Denver CO. 768
You will play Colorado and Arizona as well every year correct?
again,, if youre so inclined add it all up,,the PAC 10 travel is still NOT that much more expensive than SEC travel and the Revenue is MUCH greater for the program
tech,A&M, OU, OSU are all drivable from Austin for the average fan,,
ONCE every other year to Boulder,, and somewhere is AZ will all the horn fans in Texas,,plus limited seating at an away game,,,
seriously???
its not that difficult to see the travel costs are at best/worst a minimal concern
stop thinking as a LSU fan thats not the Consumer here its TEXAS fan,, PLENTY of whom will have NO PROBLEM chartering their own damn plane to fly wherever,, that is of course provided they dont own a plane
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:07 pm to OWLFAN86
Revenue for an SEC that includes UT and TAMU remains to be seen. And reading their boards, you don't speak for as many of their fans as you think you do.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:07 pm to OWLFAN86
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again,, if youre so inclined add it all up,,the PAC 10 travel is still NOT that much more expensive than SEC travel and the Revenue is MUCH greater for the program
tech,A&M, OU, OSU are all drivable from Austin for the average fan,,
ONCE every other year to Boulder,, and somewhere is AZ will all the horn fans in Texas,,plus limited seating at an away game,,,
seriously???
its not that difficult to see the travel costs are at best/worst a minimal concern
stop thinking as a LSU fan thats not the Consumer here its TEXAS fan,, PLENTY of whom will have NO PROBLEM chartering their own damn plane to fly wherever,, that is of course provided they dont own a plane
You don't know if the revenue is more. The SEC is the most profitable conference by far. Texas doesn't want to go to the SEC because of other reasons, not just money. If these same teams came to the SEC you would see just as much money, maybe even more than merging with the Pac.
I'm simply saying this conference expansion won't promote the type of passion that has placed the SEC where it is today. It's not like the SEC teams are located in huge markets, yet they have a 3 billion dollar television contract.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:09 pm to Tiger Authority
And yes, every Texas fan has a private jet. Forgot about that. 
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:11 pm to Tiger Authority
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Well Washington wasn't much of a tailgate either, even with the water stuff. Cool scenery but not a lively atmosphere.
I never said it was much of one
They are so fricking spread out it is crazy. The water is all they have. The rest sucks! They do allow open containers and you can be there early so I guess it is better than ASU and SC. quote:
Pick three out of a hat, attend their tailgates, and then make a generalization. I'm okay with that.
I agree with you on this. As I said....sports are not the same here. totally different animal
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:11 pm to Books
quote:im not speaking for anyone,, but I know the marketplace
Revenue for an SEC that includes UT and TAMU remains to be seen. And reading their boards, you don't speak for as many of their fans as you think you do.
and a message board poster does not represent the average UT season ticket holder
they are among the wealthiest in College Football,, they will travel just fine
and the PAC 16 TV contract will pay plenty
if the SEC can offer more,,then IM sure UT would take it
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:13 pm to Tiger Authority
quote:ohhhh yeah,,i implied EVERY texas fan owned a jet
And yes, every Texas fan has a private jet. Forgot about that.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:14 pm to OWLFAN86
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im not speaking for anyone,, but I know the marketplace
and a message board poster does not represent the average UT season ticket holder
they are among the wealthiest in College Football,, they will travel just fine
and the PAC 16 TV contract will pay plenty
if the SEC can offer more,,then IM sure UT would take it
You're on the board too dumbfvck. So spare me the I know the market place and I know UT fans. You're a Rice fan remember??? At least that is what you said a few posts back.
Second, Texas realizes that they wouldn't be top dogs in the SEC, something they can't handle to not be.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:15 pm to OWLFAN86
ohhhh yeah,,i implied EVERY texas fan owned a jet
Yeah you didn't infer it.
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that is of course provided they dont own a plane
Yeah you didn't infer it.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:16 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:when it's the biggest and most successful texas board on the internet (same place that's breaking all this re-alignment stuff) it gives a good picture.
message board poster does not represent the average UT season ticket holder
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:30 pm to Tiger Authority
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ohhhh yeah,,i implied EVERY texas fan owned a jet
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that is of course provided they dont own a plane
Yeah you didn't infer it.
quote:"plenty" does not mean all,,its doesnt even mean most
stop thinking as a LSU fan thats not the Consumer here its TEXAS fan,, PLENTY of whom will have NO PROBLEM chartering their own damn plane to fly wherever,, that is of course provided they dont own a plane
and your orginal argument was the travel costs for the "average" fan,, and I pointed out that if you ad it all up its not THAT great of a difference,, certainly not enough that the average horn fan doesnt make the effort
and the West coast as a market place,, is head and shoulders better than the small town most of the SEC teams play in,, even if the quality of life is better in the South this decision is not based upon fan access to the actual games or quality of life or even quality of football played its about $$$
and the PAC 16 has more upside across the board than does the currently configure SEC adding just Texas/A&M
NOW
if the SEC were to ad a Miami( big market)
or an FSU,, even V tech,, then thats a better situation than the SEC currently offers
and if ND were in on it thats also a game changer
and IM not insulting LSU,, or the SEC Im not saying the PAC 10 (16) is better football
Im saying financially as the offers real or rumored stand,, the PAC 16 is a better choice for UT/AM as a pair
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:33 pm to Tiger Authority
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Well Washington wasn't much of a tailgate either, even with the water stuff. Cool scenery but not a lively atmosphere.
You realize LSU visited while UW was coming off an 0-12 season, had tied a Pac 10 record for losses in a row, and had just come off of the Tyrone Losingham years... right?????/
6 years of worthless product on the field and an admin that did not care... all things considered, it wasn't that bad.... UW can definitely tailgate and have been compared to many SEC schools... Your one-time visit under the circumstances doesn't show the whole picture. it was only a few years ago we had a waiting list for season tickets... Losingham killed that... We'll be back.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:33 pm to Books
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Will teams on the West coast w/ no connections to Tex Tech, UT, and OSU tune in when they don't follow CFB all that much to begin w/?
this is what no one seems to get. It doesn't matter how many people are in LA, Sumo wrestling will not play well because no one watches it. The Pac 10 has alot of band wagon fans as well as fans with only a casual interest.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:38 pm to LawDawg1
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You realize LSU visited while UW was coming off an 0-12 season, had tied a Pac 10 record for losses in a row, and had just come off of the Tyrone Losingham years... right?????/
you realize the game was sold out right? It wasn't empty or anything. What they saw is how it is. I have been there for more than just the LSU game. You make it seem like the dawg fans didn't show up....you did. You guys were excited and ready to go.
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UW can definitely tailgate and have been compared to many SEC schools
by idiots.......your tailgate (minus the damn water) isn't even as good as Oregon's and they hold 15k less people.
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:38 pm to OWLFAN86
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if the SEC were to ad a Miami( big market)
or an FSU,, even V tech,, then thats a better situation than the SEC currently offers
and if ND were in on it thats also a game changer
and IM not insulting LSU,, or the SEC Im not saying the PAC 10 (16) is better football
Im saying financially as the offers real or rumored stand,, the PAC 16 is a better choice for UT/AM as a pair
Wow, you're a dumbass. First of all, there isn't a college fan in the state of Florida that we don't have.
Once again, the Pac 10 has had a larger overall television market than the SEC for a long time yet we remain the one with the audience.
And ND? WTF are you even talking about. And you're claim that it's a better offer is completely unsubstantiated.
Posted on 6/11/10 at 4:42 pm to OWLFAN86
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Revenue is MUCH greater for the program
Assuming the TV deal gets done like Larry Scott hopes CAA can negotiate.
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