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re: Longhorns have GOT to be asking themselves....
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:09 pm to OrangeBlood
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:09 pm to OrangeBlood
In your scenario, one has to ask (and the other Big 10 schools will). What does Texas offer the Big 10? And even if can be made to be a financial windfall for the rest of the conference, why would they let Texas have such a huge advantage in branding while the rest of them have to share a network? You expect a proud school like Michigan or Ohio State to sit back and allow Texas to be in the Big 10 and have its own network while they have to share a network with everyone else?
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:12 pm to Hawgon
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You expect a proud school like Michigan or Ohio State to sit back and allow Texas to be in the Big 10 and have its own network while they have to share a network with everyone else?
If they are making as much or more money from the shared Big 10 network, I could see it. The presence of Texas in the Big 10 would still add value to any future television contracts.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:14 pm to TK421
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If they are making as much or more money from the shared Big 10 network, I could see it. The presence of Texas in the Big 10 would still add value to any future television contracts.
No, it won't happen. They are already making so much money they literally don't need more money. They will have little incentive to allow Texas the extra exposure.
Texas has confined itself to the glorified SWC for the forseeable future.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:15 pm to Hawgon
All good points - perhaps Michigan etc. wouldn't allow it. I just think it's not as impossible as some believe.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:17 pm to Hawgon
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they literally don't need more money.
What world do you live in? I have NEVER heard someone on a college board say they don't need more money. Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:24 pm to TK421
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What world do you live in? I have NEVER heard someone on a college board say they don't need more money.
I've found in my experience that people who are already rich, don't let someone piss on them for a little more money.
So, yeah, the Big 10 schools don't need a little more money enough to let Texas piss on them with the LHN.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:25 pm to Hawgon
Speaking for myself, I would prefer having "our" own network, which as it stands includes hire/fire power over ESPN-supplied talent, rather than share it with others... even if it meant less money. Like others have indicated, money isn't everything, especially compared with the benefits of a Texas-centric network (merchandising and recruiting).
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:30 pm to texashorn
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Speaking for myself, I would prefer having "our" own network, which as it stands includes hire/fire power over ESPN-supplied talent, rather than share it with others... even if it meant less money. Like others have indicated, money isn't everything, especially compared with the benefits of a Texas-centric network (merchandising and recruiting).
the great unintentional irony of this?
Texas (who brags about being bigger and better than the rest of the United States) - would rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:36 pm to molsusports
I don't understand your reasoning. As I said, I believe the ancillary benefits of having your own network could outweigh any monetary benefit.
Texas grosses $94 million on its football program per year, and after $25 million in expenses, that's about $69 million in pure profit. Five or 10 million doesn't really matter, when weighed against the singular exposure.
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Texas grosses $94 million on its football program per year, and after $25 million in expenses, that's about $69 million in pure profit. Five or 10 million doesn't really matter, when weighed against the singular exposure.
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:43 pm to texashorn
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I don't understand your reasoning.
judging by your statement you guys would prefer not to make more money if that results in less control... and judging by Texas' behavior they would prefer to go indy or stay in a greatly weakened Big 12... rather than join a tougher conference
That really looks like you'd rather be a bigger fish in a smaller pond
Posted on 10/6/11 at 5:47 pm to molsusports
I gotcha now. Well, I've always believed that the end-game for Texas was independence, and scheduling all home games against quality opponents and televising it on the Longhorn Network, so that would fit the narrative.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 6:42 pm to OrangeBlood
I say it again, The Long Horn Network may never broadcast a game.
They may rework a new deal, but as it was designed I doubt they will ever crank up.
They may rework a new deal, but as it was designed I doubt they will ever crank up.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 6:55 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
You do realize a game has already been broadcast on it, right? Perhaps not to as many people as ESPN would have liked, but it was on, with the second one coming against Kansas.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 6:59 pm to TK421
quote:huh?
Every SEC fan I know would love to have Texas in our conference
Posted on 10/6/11 at 7:56 pm to OrangeBlood
That is one of the cool things about the last espn contract that they are showing more baseball. Just moved from Fayetteville so I'll have to watch more games on tv than in person now 
Posted on 10/6/11 at 8:39 pm to texashorn
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and scheduling all home games against quality opponents and televising it on the Longhorn Network, so that would fit the narrative.
what's you definition of quality opponents? gotta be better than your OOC foes have been. and, getting quality opponents on the schedule is not easy. the reality of being independent is, unless you are notre dame, you are OOC opponent to everybody and OOC games are all about early season tune ups and money, money, money. for texas to have a quality schedule, you'd have to really open up your wallet.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 9:39 pm to lsuin92
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I think ESPN and UT both overestimated how many people outside the state of Texas really give a crap about watching the Longhorns
+1
If the thought, "We're just as popular as Notre Dame" every crossed UT's mind, they're much dumber than I thought. Kinda like a plump chick who bought a dress that makes her 'look' slimmer and the plump chick now thinks she can compete with the hot girl in the office.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:02 pm to TK421
I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 10:18 pm to CavalryAg07
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wrong.
You don't understand contracts. But it's ok, you are clearly blinded by your hatred for Texas.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:40 pm to Chitter Chatter
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If the thought, "We're just as popular as Notre Dame" every crossed UT's mind, they're much dumber than I thought
i have come to believe that many texas fans actually believe they are as popular as notre dame. it seems to me that many of their fans are so texascentric that they do not have a clue (nor do they care) what goes on outside of the borders of the state. they love themselves so much they can't conceive that others don't. notre dame has a national following and, with the exception of the service academies, may be the only school to be successful as an independent. them going independent would be a disaster for them. but, they are attractive enough that after they realize their big frick-up a conference would pick them up. they would not, of course, actually admit the frick up though. their spin would make it sound like it was their "master plan". if you read shaggy bevo any, every time a college makes a move or threatens too, their posters tout that was only part of texas' master plan like we are all puppets and they are the puppetier in the college football world. it's really funny.
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