re: FSU is addition by subtraction

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No, in all due respect you are missing or refusing the acknowledge my point. RATINGS. In the end... its all about RATINGS.

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Your own data shows that Missouri is rated #18 over #19 for FSU obviously due to the St. Louis and Kansas City markets. You seem to be in denial of the obvious fact that Missouri would bring more to the SEC in terms of expanded tv revenue than would FSU. And I repeat: much of the tv market for UF and FSU overlap obviously because the associated viewers are in the same state.

I would like to see FSU's mighty national TV numbers.

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If we are going to expand, might as well actually expand outside what we already have.

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I want to throw WVU onto the table as a great possibility for SEC membership. I see them as a natural fit; great rivals for UK and Tennessee as mountain states. They might miss Pittsburgh though and that would be a stretch.

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I would like to see FSU's mighty national TV numbers.

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They're last two BCS games rank #2 and #3 all time, they are only behind the famous USC Texas game with Vince Young winning it on 4th down....

I posted it to show that they have a strong national interest and whether you like them or not they are a much more appealing to a national audience in a game.

Would you rather watch (anyteam) play Mizzou... or FSU?

And guess what.... that equals better ratings all day long.

Look there are two ways to increase your effective percentage based "footprint":

1. You bring in the local school for that particular area you are targeting. What that does is similar to shining a flashlight at the wall... You get a ton of interest in that immediate area of the beam, but it doesn't brighten the rest of the wall very much.

2. You bring in marquee match ups between two quality opponents that have national interest. This is more like opening a window on the other side of the room. The entire wall is brighter but not as bright as the flashflight beam was.

Excuse the really screwy analogy but people saying FSU brings nothing to the table when it comes to television revenue are just flat out wrong.

You Gatorfans can p!ss and moan and wail all you want..you're only one vote.

If ATM is put upon LSU and West teams..FSU upon UF and East teams..is only fair.

ATM and FSU make the most sense by far and away.

OU, Ok St, Mo, Clem, VT..geographically and demographically as fanbases..no match for the SEC.

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roadGator

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If you would like to refute the national interest in FSU you are free to attempt to do so, but you are now just saying the same thing over and over again and haven't offered any facts to back it up.

So basically, I'm not going to respond unless you post something factual and not just the same rhetoric. I explained how a program with national interest can generate a less targeted but equal or exponentially greater affect on television ratings. It is really not a difficult concept to grasp.

If you are too stubborn to accept it just agree to disagree and move on man.

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FSU is addition by subtraction



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Why is this so hard for people to understand? You take the entire state of Florida market and leave a weak Miami footprint for the ACC



I don't think you understand what addition by subtraction actually means.

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Subtracting FSU from the ACC cache and adding it to the SEC weakens the current ACC footprint and kills any other potential conference from putting getting their stamp on a talent rich Florida.

When Slive and Co. go to broker a new deal, would it not be better to say "hey we can deliver the whole state of florida now, the acc only gives you part of miami" ?

of course, because Florida is one of the most populated states in the country and that equals more $$$ for the SEC.

culturally, i think Clemson is the best fit.

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This is a pic at FSU last year against a conference opponent(WF).

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If I remember correctly, that WF game started late because of weather, and also had a 2 hour lightning delay in the middle of the game, so that picture hardly tells an accurate tale of what really happened that day. And it is Wake Forest. I doubt Bryant Denny would be at full capacity for a day game in the rain against Vanderbilt either.

This argument about 'bringing a TV market' is about the dumbest thing I've heard on here.
Just look at these potential yearly matchups:

FSU vs. LSU in Tiger Stadium

Bama VS FSU at the Doak

FSU vs. Auburn on the Plains

Georgia vs. FSU at the Doak.

...you don't think those matchups wouldn't absolutely sell out, garner national TV and press attention and have opposing fans flocking to the opposing campus for the games based solely on geographic ease of travel?

If you don't agree with this, and still think that 'bringing a tv market' argument really has any weight, then you're just swimming in a sea of myopia.