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Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:37 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Welcome back Dick.
FIFY GT
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:46 am to Mulat
It can't die yet. Mack to be chased out of Austin after Alamo bowl then Saban to take job. No buyout!
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:50 am to rebeloke
Cant kill something that was never alive- just a bunch mumbo jumbo voodoo peddlers running their mouths....
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:52 am to The Mick
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Yep, alabamared had the inside scoop all along folks. Strange that his first post on the topic was yesterday at 1055am.
That was probably when the local library allowed access to their computers.
Trailer trash fool he is.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:54 am to alabamared
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just a bunch mumbo jumbo voodoo peddlers running their mouths....
Come on, Red. Can you at least admit that Sexton, with or without Saban's knowledge spearheaded this entire clusterfrick? Not there is anything wrong with that. Hell, he can be my agent anytime...
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:10 am to Vlad
Did Saban actually sign a contract?
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:18 am to La Place Mike
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Did Saban actually sign a contract?
Nah, bro! He headed to LSU!
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:20 am to Vlad
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Nah, bro! He headed to LSU!
As an assistant DB coach?
This post was edited on 12/14/13 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:25 am to LSUnation78
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As an assistant DB coach?
Lawd knows you all could use some help there, fo sho!
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:32 am to Vlad
Lawd knows you all could use some help there, fo sho!
Lawd do know and sent us some lock down corners.
Lawd do know and sent us some lock down corners.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:43 am to themunch
Still waiting to hear from GEAUXmedic GeauxxxTigers23. Where are you guys?
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:47 am to PuntBamaPunt
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Great call.
I was wrong. I said there's a 20% chance Saban was extorting more money from Bama. I have the man too much credit. I should have recalled how he did this every year at LSU.
And he's getting worse. He actually extorted money twice from Bammer this year. Two contracts in a year and both times using the threat of bolting to Texas.
And with no buyout, Bammer has no leverage so he'll do this again and again and again. And Bammer bends over and takes it. Again and again and again. Fits right in with the definition of insanity.
In the end everyone's better for it. UT doesn't have to put up with an extortionist. Saban gets richer. Bammer bathes in their blissful ignorance. And the rest of us have our belief - that Saban is pond scum and the Bammers are idiots - vindicated.
Win win for everyone!
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:52 am to Vegas Bengal
Two contracts in a year and both times using the threat of bolting to Texas.
My thoughts too. He got an 'extension' increase and then, now, is getting a second in the same year. The man is awesomeness. Not.
My thoughts too. He got an 'extension' increase and then, now, is getting a second in the same year. The man is awesomeness. Not.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:54 am to Vegas Bengal
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Vegas Bengal
You mad.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:29 am to WasteMgmt
Can we all RIP now.
Here is what is going on at University of Turmoil. Some of the posters said this Thursday. Maybe Chip Brown is Doc?
Chip Brown: Mack Brown threatened to go public...
Posted by: Pete Roussel on Saturday December 14, 2013
During his weekly Saturday morning radio show on NBC Sports Radio, Clay Travis interviewed Orangebloods.com reporter Chip Brown, who was particularly candid was the entire situation at Texas.
Overnight, Brown received what he tabbed as vicious and personal attacks because of misinformation that he reported earlier in the week that Brown would be stepping down head coach.
It appears now, however, that Brown may indeed remain as the head coach of the Longhorns for at least another year.
During Texas’ year-end football banquet last night, news broke that Nick Saban, who many believe was Texas’ target to replace Brown, had signed a contract extension to stay at Alabama.
Brown made no mention of his future at the Texas’ year-end banquet on Friday night, however, Bobby Burton of 247Sports afterwards tweeted, “BREAKING: Source tells me that Mack Brown, following mtg w school prez and AD, will remain coach of the Longhorns.”
Chip Brown told Clay Travis this morning, “This is an unbelievable drama and it has really played out over two years. You had a group of regents and powerful big-money donors who had a conversation with Nick Saban’s agent last January. A former regent went to Mack Brown two days later and said, “Mack, do you still want to coach?” Mack said, “Yes.” Things proceeded, but the thought of Saban as coach never left that group. Mack Brown worked all year under the knowledge that if he didn’t meet certain criteria – 10 wins, BCS bowl-eligibility, BCS birth, at least a share of the Big 12 title – that he would be stepping down because the four-year failed rebuilding project would be too much.
“He knew that group was still focused in on Nick Saban. He was dead-man walking at 1-2. If Iowa State hangs on to an interception or gets a ruling on a fumble later, or Texas fails on the 4th & 7 against West Virginia, we’re not even talking about this because Mack Brown would have stepped down at the end, probably the day after the Baylor game. But because he was still in contention for a Big 12 title, he told the group he was not ready to meet.”
Brown said, “Mack Brown is apparently blaming press leaks for his unhappiness, but he threatened to go public with the details about the regents and the boosters’ attempt to get Saban for two years. That word got to Saban’s camp almost immediately and within an hour he had re-upped with Alabama. And Mack Brown’s future is still totally in limbo. There are billionaires at Texas that want to know why Mack Brown is still the football coach and there is not an offer being made to Nick Saban. That’s where we are. It is amazing. It is amazing.”
What happens now?
Brown said, “You get the sense from the way Bill Powers has handled this, it’s that if Mack goes then I go, and they just gave him a vote of continuance. There could be a stalemate.”
He added that (athletic director) Steve Patterson ‘has got to be wondering where his voice is in all of this’ and that ‘(the banquet) was one of the most uncomfortable football banquets that I’ve ever seen, last night.’
On if Texas is a great job, but not being run like a great job right now:
Brown said, “They’ve fought over the director of the director of higher-education in the state of Texas, but they’ve also fought over the football coach. Right now, Bill Powers and Mack Brown have taken control of the situation in a way that no one thought was possible, at least in the minds of some of the more powerful people connected to the University of Texas. So you’re guess is as good as mine as to who they could bring in (as head coach). I mean, it has all the tangibles, all the stuff on paper that you would want, but the leadership at Texas right now is all over the place.”
Is it entirely Bill Powers’ decision?
Brown said, “I was told all along that Bill Powers would be the one to handle Mack Brown. I immediately thought okay because Bill Powers and Mack Brown have been so closely aligned. Mack had one amazing things raising money. He’s helped raise $285 million for this $3 billion capital campaign. Mack Brown has made everyone’s job very easy from a financial standpoint. He pays the bills.
“I was told once Bill Powers handled Mack that Steve Patterson would handle the hiring of Nick Saban. I have not talked to Steve Patterson today, but you have to wonder if he’s wondering why he’s there or what’s happening. Right now, I think they’re all looking at each other, at least that’s the way it was described to me. The big money players in the drive for Saban are thinking they got played from the beginning.
“The thing all along was that they never wanted Mack Brown to look like he was getting fired. They wanted it to look like it was his own idea. But when he told Tim Brando in November, when he outed Nick Saban by saying that ‘Nick is my friend; he’s not coming after my job,’ Mack knew there was a drive by the highest levels of the university to get Nick Saban. He did that because he was starting to win. Of course, his next home game was his worst home loss, 38-13 to Oklahoma State. That’s the way it’s been, ever since. Honestly, I don’t know where they’re going to go from here."
On if the media coverage changed the outcome…
Brown said, “I don’t think so. That’s what I’m being told by this group. That’s being used as the excuse, but Mack Brown and Bill Powers never wanted Nick Saban. Mack, quite honestly, has behind-the-scenes told Powers not flattering things about Nick Saban, but yet he’s continued to hire one assistant after another from Nick Saban.”
Interestingly, Brown noted, “Texas never scheduled the top-tier SEC teams because under DeLoss Dodds they felt like there may have been an unfair playing field.”
He added, “For Mack Brown to blame press leaks is convenient and really speaks to the control the message mentality that Mack Brown has at Texas. Brian Jones of CBS has talked quite in-depth of what it was like being the sideline reporter as a former Texas player working for Mack Brown. If you said anything critical, you were called into his office.
“Mack hates me. I’m sure this was in part was about trying to destroy me and Orangebloods.com because we have never bought into his ‘control the message’ mentality. They have gone to great lengths to suffocate us. This is probably another example.
On what’s next…
“Maybe they can get the house in order by the time the national championship game is played because there could be interest in both of those coaches.”
Brown concluded, “I would be (stunned if he’s coaching next year), but I would be right there covering it all.”
Pete Roussel is a valuable resource for coaches, athletic directors, NFL front-office personnel, and college football enthusiasts. A former college football coach, Roussel shares insight on coaches 365 days a year and is recognized as the most trusted expert on coaching transactions. Follow @CoachingSearch on twitter and send your feedback to pete@coachingsearch.comtest
Here is what is going on at University of Turmoil. Some of the posters said this Thursday. Maybe Chip Brown is Doc?
Chip Brown: Mack Brown threatened to go public...
Posted by: Pete Roussel on Saturday December 14, 2013
During his weekly Saturday morning radio show on NBC Sports Radio, Clay Travis interviewed Orangebloods.com reporter Chip Brown, who was particularly candid was the entire situation at Texas.
Overnight, Brown received what he tabbed as vicious and personal attacks because of misinformation that he reported earlier in the week that Brown would be stepping down head coach.
It appears now, however, that Brown may indeed remain as the head coach of the Longhorns for at least another year.
During Texas’ year-end football banquet last night, news broke that Nick Saban, who many believe was Texas’ target to replace Brown, had signed a contract extension to stay at Alabama.
Brown made no mention of his future at the Texas’ year-end banquet on Friday night, however, Bobby Burton of 247Sports afterwards tweeted, “BREAKING: Source tells me that Mack Brown, following mtg w school prez and AD, will remain coach of the Longhorns.”
Chip Brown told Clay Travis this morning, “This is an unbelievable drama and it has really played out over two years. You had a group of regents and powerful big-money donors who had a conversation with Nick Saban’s agent last January. A former regent went to Mack Brown two days later and said, “Mack, do you still want to coach?” Mack said, “Yes.” Things proceeded, but the thought of Saban as coach never left that group. Mack Brown worked all year under the knowledge that if he didn’t meet certain criteria – 10 wins, BCS bowl-eligibility, BCS birth, at least a share of the Big 12 title – that he would be stepping down because the four-year failed rebuilding project would be too much.
“He knew that group was still focused in on Nick Saban. He was dead-man walking at 1-2. If Iowa State hangs on to an interception or gets a ruling on a fumble later, or Texas fails on the 4th & 7 against West Virginia, we’re not even talking about this because Mack Brown would have stepped down at the end, probably the day after the Baylor game. But because he was still in contention for a Big 12 title, he told the group he was not ready to meet.”
Brown said, “Mack Brown is apparently blaming press leaks for his unhappiness, but he threatened to go public with the details about the regents and the boosters’ attempt to get Saban for two years. That word got to Saban’s camp almost immediately and within an hour he had re-upped with Alabama. And Mack Brown’s future is still totally in limbo. There are billionaires at Texas that want to know why Mack Brown is still the football coach and there is not an offer being made to Nick Saban. That’s where we are. It is amazing. It is amazing.”
What happens now?
Brown said, “You get the sense from the way Bill Powers has handled this, it’s that if Mack goes then I go, and they just gave him a vote of continuance. There could be a stalemate.”
He added that (athletic director) Steve Patterson ‘has got to be wondering where his voice is in all of this’ and that ‘(the banquet) was one of the most uncomfortable football banquets that I’ve ever seen, last night.’
On if Texas is a great job, but not being run like a great job right now:
Brown said, “They’ve fought over the director of the director of higher-education in the state of Texas, but they’ve also fought over the football coach. Right now, Bill Powers and Mack Brown have taken control of the situation in a way that no one thought was possible, at least in the minds of some of the more powerful people connected to the University of Texas. So you’re guess is as good as mine as to who they could bring in (as head coach). I mean, it has all the tangibles, all the stuff on paper that you would want, but the leadership at Texas right now is all over the place.”
Is it entirely Bill Powers’ decision?
Brown said, “I was told all along that Bill Powers would be the one to handle Mack Brown. I immediately thought okay because Bill Powers and Mack Brown have been so closely aligned. Mack had one amazing things raising money. He’s helped raise $285 million for this $3 billion capital campaign. Mack Brown has made everyone’s job very easy from a financial standpoint. He pays the bills.
“I was told once Bill Powers handled Mack that Steve Patterson would handle the hiring of Nick Saban. I have not talked to Steve Patterson today, but you have to wonder if he’s wondering why he’s there or what’s happening. Right now, I think they’re all looking at each other, at least that’s the way it was described to me. The big money players in the drive for Saban are thinking they got played from the beginning.
“The thing all along was that they never wanted Mack Brown to look like he was getting fired. They wanted it to look like it was his own idea. But when he told Tim Brando in November, when he outed Nick Saban by saying that ‘Nick is my friend; he’s not coming after my job,’ Mack knew there was a drive by the highest levels of the university to get Nick Saban. He did that because he was starting to win. Of course, his next home game was his worst home loss, 38-13 to Oklahoma State. That’s the way it’s been, ever since. Honestly, I don’t know where they’re going to go from here."
On if the media coverage changed the outcome…
Brown said, “I don’t think so. That’s what I’m being told by this group. That’s being used as the excuse, but Mack Brown and Bill Powers never wanted Nick Saban. Mack, quite honestly, has behind-the-scenes told Powers not flattering things about Nick Saban, but yet he’s continued to hire one assistant after another from Nick Saban.”
Interestingly, Brown noted, “Texas never scheduled the top-tier SEC teams because under DeLoss Dodds they felt like there may have been an unfair playing field.”
He added, “For Mack Brown to blame press leaks is convenient and really speaks to the control the message mentality that Mack Brown has at Texas. Brian Jones of CBS has talked quite in-depth of what it was like being the sideline reporter as a former Texas player working for Mack Brown. If you said anything critical, you were called into his office.
“Mack hates me. I’m sure this was in part was about trying to destroy me and Orangebloods.com because we have never bought into his ‘control the message’ mentality. They have gone to great lengths to suffocate us. This is probably another example.
On what’s next…
“Maybe they can get the house in order by the time the national championship game is played because there could be interest in both of those coaches.”
Brown concluded, “I would be (stunned if he’s coaching next year), but I would be right there covering it all.”
Pete Roussel is a valuable resource for coaches, athletic directors, NFL front-office personnel, and college football enthusiasts. A former college football coach, Roussel shares insight on coaches 365 days a year and is recognized as the most trusted expert on coaching transactions. Follow @CoachingSearch on twitter and send your feedback to pete@coachingsearch.comtest
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:34 am to WasteMgmt
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Still waiting to hear from GEAUXmedic GeauxxxTigers23. Where are you guys?
You rang?
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:34 am to TutHillTiger
That was a good read.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:40 am to TutHillTiger
Dang, that guy is messed up. Thanks for posting.
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