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re: Doesn't TCU run a 4-2-5?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:18 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:18 am to Lester Earl
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i know its terminology
there's a reason that they call it 2 different things
because they are different.
The terminology is loosely defined, though. That's what some of you are forgetting.
You can play a 4-3 with a SS lined up as the Sam backer. Would you call it a 4-2-5 or a 4-3?
What about the 46 defense? The general concept behind it is having 6 defenders play up to the LOS, normally a SS used as a surrogate linebacker, and the CBs can also play the roles of LBs--or something to that effect.
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:24 am to brad8504
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The terminology is loosely defined, though. That's what some of you are forgetting.
somewhat, but not really in this case
nickel is nickel
4-2-5 is a 4-2-5
the only way it gets confusing is if you leave the same personel on the field at all times
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:24 am to brad8504
quote:
The terminology is loosely defined, though. That's what some of you are forgetting.
You can play a 4-3 with a SS lined up as the Sam backer. Would you call it a 4-2-5 or a 4-3?
What about the 46 defense? The general concept behind it is having 6 defenders play up to the LOS, normally a SS used as a surrogate linebacker, and the CBs can also play the roles of LBs--or something to that effect.
One day my friend, I will assemble an All-star cast of coaches. So far I have Stoney Delcambre a former McNeese DE as DL coach, John Compton is my OL coach, maybe you have spot in there Brad.
I don't know where we are coaching but we are gonna dominate like Kilmer did.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:24 am to brad8504
Just for the record, SFP only likes to argue for the sake of argument. I'm well aware of this. He likes to argue the logistics of the spread offense and what separates it from the spread option; yet, he fails to recognize that all the spread option philosophy is doing is incorporating the option into the shotgun spread formation.... no shite?
In his opinion, the spread option is nowhere near, in any way, shape, or form, related to the spread philosophy.
In his opinion, the spread option is nowhere near, in any way, shape, or form, related to the spread philosophy.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:25 am to brad8504
Bringing Bumpas defense to LSU would have the same affect of bringing Urbay Meyer's offense to Florida or Saban's defense to LSU. It's a game changer. The guy brings pressure from everywhere and let's his defensive linemean create havoc on the edges. Our athleticism would fit perfectly into his philosophy.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:25 am to L S Usetheforce
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nickel is nickel
4-2-5 is a 4-2-5
NO, you can run a 4-2-5 nickel. We just discussed it and you gave the correct answer.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:26 am to L S Usetheforce
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One day my friend, I will assemble an All-star cast of coaches. So far I have Stoney Delcambre a former McNeese DE and DL, John Compton is my OL coach, maybe you have spot in there Brad.
Stacy Searels needs a place in there. UGA's OL coach right now, and if you recall, he had several All-Americans play for him during his tenure at LSU (Whitworth, Wilkerson come to mind).
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:27 am to brad8504
John Compton was coached by Stacy......We got him covered. This cast can't be coaches with jobs. We are taking everyday run of the mill guys with skill and going at it.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:28 am to L S Usetheforce
nevermind, not worth arguing
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:30 am to L S Usetheforce
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John Compton was coached by Stacy......We got him covered. This cast can't be coaches with jobs. We are taking everyday run of the mill guys with skill and going at it.
Ah, I gotcha. Good thinking. As long as we get some of that SS influence into the OL, we're going to be a machine. I just hope we can pull in the recruits with the size to match Texas Tech's. Have you seen the size of their offensive line?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:32 am to Lester Earl
I'm not arguing. You are stating that taking the 4-2-5 base D and removing the safety and adding a cb makes it a nickel D.
All I'm stating is that you are running a 4-2-5 with a nickelback.
I'm on the same page with ya.
All I'm stating is that you are running a 4-2-5 with a nickelback.
I'm on the same page with ya.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:34 am to Lester Earl
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nevermind, not worth arguing
You're right, it's not worth arguing, because there's no need to over think this "issue." The point me and force are trying to make is that no matter how you spin things, if you bring in a fifth DB, it is a variation of the nickel defense. The nickel is a family, or network, of defensive schemes and philosophies that encompasses the use of five defensive backs. The number of down linemen and linebackers can vary, and will most often vary at different times throughout the game based on down and distance and other determining factors.
That's not google, that's common knowledge.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:34 am to L S Usetheforce
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Ah, I gotcha. Good thinking. As long as we get some of that SS influence into the OL, we're going to be a machine. I just hope we can pull in the recruits with the size to match Texas Tech's. Have you seen the size of their offensive line?
We are doing high school and I'll let Compton handle Oline. He is currently at Northshore in Houston. They are ranked 11th in the nation and he fears that his team will me up with "Da Ridge" and Shep deep in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:37 am to L S Usetheforce
You can add Jermey Lawerence to our list coaching LBs. The twitch alone will strike fear into his players.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:39 am to L S Usetheforce
the return of the 4-2-5! Carl Reese, Raion, Roman and Leblanc, where have you gone?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:40 am to ATLTiger
Ah Leblanc...........beastly tackler.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:41 am to L S Usetheforce
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You can add Jermey Lawerence to our list coaching LBs. The twitch alone will strike fear into his players.
I think I can probably get Lionel Turner to help out. He used to hunt with us. Matter of fact, him and Lavalais both came up to West Feliciana and hunted with us one year. I'll have to see if Chad is available for the DL.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:47 am to brad8504
you're right, lets not over think it
a 4-3, 3-4, 4-2-5, nickle, dime, goaline, etc..
they are all the same cause they have 11 players on the field.
right?
a 4-3, 3-4, 4-2-5, nickle, dime, goaline, etc..
they are all the same cause they have 11 players on the field.
right?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:49 am to Lester Earl
quote:
you're right, lets not over think it
a 4-3, 3-4, 4-2-5, nickle, dime, goaline, etc..
they are all the same cause they have 11 players on the field.
right?
Essentially, they are all a part of the defensive family. Therefore, yes. They are the same.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:50 am to Lester Earl
hey in 97 we went from a 4-3 to 4-2-5 to 3-4 in the same season. with a 3-3-5 mixed in against UF. that wacky Reese
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