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Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:42 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80405 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:42 am to
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Are we all in agreement...
That's its Saban or Spurrier at this point if Les leaves?


Nope. It is neither one.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:42 am to
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It will be Mike Nolan. SF will fire him to pursue Pete Carrol in the next 2 weeks, leaving a young, fiery, defensive minded coach with LSU ties on the market for us to snatch up.


Hadn't heard this name until now. But I'd be a big fan of that hire.
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 11:43 am to
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It didn't sound that way last night. It's "you're" not your. I have higher expectations of you than that.


okay.....

are you sure that you are not a woman? Stop Trying to change the subject. You made a completely dumb arse remark, now you should just own up to it and stick your head back up your arse!
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33152 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 12:07 pm to
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Just because YOU didn't know who Saban was, didn't mean he was an up and comer. He was well known to be a big time coach to those who know football and was felt to be a big coup for LSU at that time by them.


biggest bunch of revisionist history on this board.

He was not on anyone's top five lists before he was announced.
He was exactly what Miles was-a former NFL assistant who had a little success at a second fiddle state school.
He did have a reputation for being a great recruiter but no one, not Emmert, Sexton, Gill Brandt or any of the others involved knew he would be as successful as he was.
Clear your head son, Dinardo beat him at the Indy Bowl!
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44726 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 12:13 pm to
He wasn't on our list because we didn't think we would get him. Our administration was floored when learned that he would be interested. Go back and look at what he was doing with that probation riddled Michigan state program. Go back and read what Belichick thought about him. Comparing him to Dinardo? Please
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94680 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 12:23 pm to
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We'll see what he does with Michigan and determine who has what credibility then.


If you want to say, "Miles was mediocre at Okie State", my response is NOT "That's silly." I might point out that he won with a program lacking in the winning tradition of in-state rival, OU, or that he was 2-2 against the Stoops-led Sooners, or some such defense. However, your point would be debatable, not silly.

So when you said Les has been mediocre (and your implication was clearly for his tenure at LSU) despite accomplishing what no coach has ever done, 30 wins in any three seasons, back-to-back 11 win seasons, back-to-back impressive bowl wins, beating Bama, Auburn and Florida in the same season, it's just silly.

No one is above criticism -- Les gambles alot, sometimes it cost us. The team plays with a lot of non-aggression related penalties (coaching related). The team came out flat several times down the stretch this year. The team has had trouble finishing opponents in the second half of the season. Bad playcalling on both sides, at times.....

These are all valid criticisms of a team that won 10 games. If you devolve from the facts into attacks (even a mild one as "Miles has been mediocre") you lose your credibility. You don't have to believe me for it to be true.

You may be right about Miles to Michigan ending badly for both parties. But it doesn't mean he was mediocre here.

WVMD was mediocre here, except for one season.
Posted by tyger gyrl
Birmingham, AL
Member since Aug 2005
24 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 12:25 pm to
If Saban leaves Alabama to return to LSU, he'd better take a page from the Dennis Francioni playbook, and pack up his family and move in the dead of night. The fans here in Alabama are attached to him in that scary, Fatal Attraction meets Deliverance kind of way.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44726 posts
Posted on 11/28/07 at 12:30 pm to
And I think you just can't look at it purely from numbers of wins and losses without also factoring in that it has been the greatest accumulation of talent in the history of LSU. I think many other coaches could have put up more than 3 points against Auburn last year, 7 against Florida last year, and losing 2 this year with better players than everybody we played. There is a reason people aren't all up and arms Miles is leaving. They won't come out and say it but...figure it out.
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