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re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy Recommendation & Discussion Thread
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though at least the last book doesn't have as much of that and a little more action.


The last 2 books were my favorite, but the entire 2nd series was a chore. As soon as Bee arrives, it gets tough to get through.


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I'm assuming Regal gets killed in the 3rd one and that will give me enough closure to move on


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auyushu
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gonna call it quits after book 3. Maybe someday down the road I'll feel like coming back.



Honestly, while I enjoyed all the Fitz and rain wilds on the whole, I can't imagine trying to binge read the series, its pacing doesn't lend well to that I don't think.


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Ya, I Kind of thought it was picking up at the end of Book 1. But they just sort of hit reset and started doing the same things again in Book 2 plus a whole of Fitz and Molly romantic angst


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So I'm on Book 4 (Blood Mirror) of the Lightbringer series.

I still love the series, but it's like Brent Weeks got obsessed with sex or something during Book 4. I know some of it is natural to Kip's storyline and development (and all of the Mighty), but it's also in other storylines as well (Gavin and Mariessa). Anyway... just kind of weird and a bit awkward with the way he writes about it.

Book 4 has definitely been my least favorite, but I understand that Book 5 is really good, supposedly.


auyushu
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Book 4 has definitely been my least favorite, but I understand that Book 5 is really good, supposedly.



Book 4 is definitely the worst. That series peaks in book 3 to me.


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Raistlins Apprentice
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Yeah book 4 was pretty weak, and truthfully, book 5 really isn't that much better. I think for me the series probably peaked with book 1 which was awesome, then the next 2 are really solid, then it goes off a cliff.

I just finished Battlemage by Stephen Aryan which was a solid read in the mold of a David Gemmell series. Very military fantasy which is not really my preference but I liked it ok.

Also just finished Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames which follows an old mercenary band. Pretty unique style and very enjoyable read.

Now I've decided to reread David Eddings old series The Belgariad. Pawn of Prophecy, the 1st book, was the very first fantasy book I ever read. Finished rereading it last night and man its almost a different genre altogether from current fantasy books. Still its a quick and easy read with enough interesting stuff to make it worthwhile.


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Now I've decided to reread David Eddings old series The Belgariad. Pawn of Prophecy, the 1st book, was the very first fantasy book I ever read. Finished rereading it last night and man its almost a different genre altogether from current fantasy books. Still its a quick and easy read with enough interesting stuff to make it worthwhile.


Its really interesting to look back at how fantasy has progressed and developed. Really started obviously with LOTR, see some sword and sorcery and some solid fantasy epics come into play. It seems like the 90's are when you really started to see the epic world-building type series come into their own, along with some darker and more gruesome styles - clearly heavily influenced by ASOIAF. This dark and gritty focus seems to have sort of taken hold by the mid 2000's and really has been carried through still as what a lot of people are looking for.

I think that we may be seeing somewhat of another counter-movement creep up as some authors look to push back against everything being so dark, gruesome and rapey (for lack of a better word). Sanderson puts it well when he talks about his books and how he wants to deal with those themes, but you can sort of work around it in the writing (sort of how Robert Jordan did it as well). I also feel like after so many years of people saying they don't want the same old tropes, there is a group of people who still want some of the same tropes but just done in new and interesting ways as opposed to outright subversion and casts filled with moral ambiguity.

I just find it really interesting to be able to look back on the emergence and development of the sci fi / fantasy genre - I also really think that this is going to explode into hollywood here soon. We've already seen some of it with Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, LOTR, resurgence of Star Wars mania - but to me those are more proving concept and that people want these kind of stories with big production budgets. With a few more successes, I feel like this could sort of be the "hollywood theme" of the next decade or two - kind of like how superhero movies have been dominating for the past 20 years.
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auyushu
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I also feel like after so many years of people saying they don't want the same old tropes, there is a group of people who still want some of the same tropes but just done in new and interesting ways as opposed to outright subversion and casts filled with moral ambiguity.


Pretty much, and if everyone is doing the gritty, grimdark stuff then the grimdark genre itself becomes rather run of the mill and full of tropes itself. I think that's why variety is key. Sometimes I want that simple good guys versus bad guys done in interesting ways (John Gwynne for example), and sometimes I want Abercrombie. if all you read is Abercrombie stuff it's gonna get pretty rough and depressing, gotta mix it up with the Riyria and Dresden type books (or just straight humor like Pratchett). At least for me anyway.
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Sneaky__Sally
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I think that is one reason why sci fi / fantasy is so great. Most genre fiction just is the tropes - spy novels, murder mystery, etc. all have pretty defined notes, which can be played with, but overall stay pretty similar. The sci fi / fantasy genre can mix those around and combine them in interesting ways, subvert them so there are a just a ton of different types of stories and it keeps evolving.


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Finished 2nd farseer finally, didn't really enjoy that one as much as the 1st - just sort of dragged on for me with a mix of not a ton of action, not much going on setting wise and it just felt very much the same as book 1 almost like they could have been combined. I'll get to book 3 at some point, its not on libby and I don't want to pay for it so i'll probably check it out from the library at some point.


Started The Poppy War audiobook walking my dog this morning. Got through 3 or 4 chapters, kind of a typical YA introduction style at this point - but the world seems to be kind of dark, war torn country, drug use, etc. and i'm enjoying it thus far.


Sneaky__Sally
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re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy Recommendation & Discussion Thread
Finished up the Poppy War audiobook - it is quite good.,



Sort of Spoilers on theme below.




I was slightly disappointed it took a hard turn into grimdark sort of stuff for the last 1/2 or so. I thought it was doing a very impressive job of toeing the line but still sort of maintaining hope - but then the last half people just start going off. Got the audiobook for the 2nd one on hold from the library as of now.



Also, I was looking at Wizard of Earthsea audiobook? I know it is an older book but everyone says it is really good? Any thoughts on if it still holds up?


Raistlins Apprentice
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If you are talking Le Guin, yeah her stuff is pretty good. Though admittedly its been a while since I read it, so maybe it wont hold up as much I remember.

I started The Raveling series by Alec Hutson, still early in, but seems solid so far.


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