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Malazan Book of the Fallen

Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 9:51 pm
Currently on book eight of my re-read and was just curious if there are any other fans of this series here. Its my favorite out of the genre and has been for a while.

Books 2 and 3 are some of my all time favorites of any genre out there. It amazes all the things that fit together so much better now that I know what is going on. Its a hell of a challenge, but i bet i end up going through a third time at some point.

Kruppe has got to be my favorite character but there are so many of them and the depth of the story is amazing. There are multiple times i've put down the book and just thought about what happened - if there are others in here just getting through i don't want to spoil anything.

Mainly curious if anyone else on here was reading these right now and wanted to discuss the books.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 10:44 pm to
I finished the series a few years ago (haven't attempted a reread) and thoroughly enjoyed them as well! I always recommend them to anyone who likes that genre. The scope is just so vast.

I would also agree that 2 and 3 are my favorites as well. Favorite character though....Tehol Beddict was the most entertaining to me, but I really admired Whiskeyjack and Fiddler, so it's kind of a toss up.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:05 pm to
Malazan is one of my top finished fantasy series for sure. Books 2 and 3 would be among my favorites as well, along with book 5. One of the best things about the series I think is that it actually has a strong finish with book 10 that wraps things up nicely.

Kruppe is pretty awesome, but I think the Tehol and Bugg combo is my favorite of the series.

Most of Esslemont's companion books are good too, and the Bauchelain and Broach books are great as well.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 11:31 pm to
Ah i had forgotten about Tehol and Bugg - definitely two of my favorites and are really what make the whole Lether storyline click, along with Quick Ben (actually all four of those were my favorite at one point in the series). Also Karsa's opening 100 page scene (I forget which book, probably 4) showing him leaving the village is amazing.

The reread is definitely daunting - but goes much quicker than the first time around and is highly rewarding. I just have been blown away again by the depth and variety of the characters. The books are a challenging read and i definitely don't recommend many to start out with them. The opening scene of book 1 even is amazing with the carnage of the hounds.

Sort of half spoiler below::






One of the best parts is just the scope of the series, how it makes you think about the implications of immortality or long life (the T'Lan Imass soldier returning to mortality in a scene in the middle of the series comes to mind and really made me stop and think about what that would have been like for someone).
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 8:28 am
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:02 pm to
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One of the best parts is just the scope of the series, how it makes you think about the implications of immortality or long life


Yeah, the Andii and Imass along with the Jaghut give really interesting insights into immortality and the negatives that go with it.

One of my favorite things about the series is the complete lack of infodumps and spoonfeeding. You get the entire picture piece by piece throughout the series. Of course that is largely what makes them a challenging read for many and disliked by some.

I love the interactions between the Bridgeburners as well, Picker, Hedge, and company are hilarious. As you said, just so many well written and different character types.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:10 pm to
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One of my favorite things about the series is the complete lack of infodumps and spoonfeeding. You get the entire picture piece by piece throughout the series. Of course that is largely what makes them a challenging read for many and disliked by some.


ya that is definitely the challenging part of the series - he also uses a very elevated vocabulary (i have had to look up words before and i read a pretty good bit).

But its also what makes the re-read so amazing - especially for book 1 when they introduce a tyrant and a bunch of other stuff rapidfire and you don't know whats going on at all. The second time is like a whole different story when you know the characters so well.
Posted by nvcowboyfan
James Turner Street, Birmingham,UK
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 4:57 pm to
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Malazan

surprised that a bama fan would read something written by an auburn head coach
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:49 am to
its not written in crayon (JK auburn fans)
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:10 am to
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I love the interactions between the Bridgeburners as well, Picker, Hedge, and company are hilarious. As you said, just so many well written and different character types.


ya you get the whole bredth include a wide variety of immortal / godlike figures, actual elder gods, mortal heroes, rulers / aristocracy / rich people in a capitalist society, very compelling military units and scenes.

He also manages to create tension about who will succeed even with immortal beings throughout.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:38 am to
Just finished Toll The Hounds on my re-read last night. Forgot how much i loved the ending of this book. It is probably one of the weaker offerings as the opening few hundred pages move very slows, but i really enjoyed it. Much of the action is following or seen by Kruppe, one of my favorite characters, so that probably has something to do with it.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8597 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:51 pm to
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Forgot how much i loved the ending of this book. It is probably one of the weaker offerings as the opening few hundred pages move very slows, but i really enjoyed it.


Yeah, Toll the Hounds is my second least favorite of the series I think, but the ending of that book is fantastic. (Dust of dreams is easily my least favorite, and the only one I'm not a fan of really)
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:37 am to
Ya it is a very different entry (Toll The Hounds). Lots philosophical type thoughts and questions, its right in the middle of the pack for me. Books 2 and 3 are my favorites - although i do really like Midnight Tides as well.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8597 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:42 am to
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Books 2 and 3 are my favorites - although i do really like Midnight Tides as well.




Those 3 are my top 3 as well, It'd be tough to decide which I like most. I'd probably go tiers with those books:

1st tier- Memories of Ice, Deadhouse gates, Midnight Tides

2nd tier- House of Chains and The Crippled God

3rd tier- Bonehunters, Reapers Gale, Gardens of the Moon

4th tier (slightly below 3rd)- Toll the hounds

5th tier (way way below 4th)- Dust of Dreams


I'd consider most of the ICE books on par with Toll the Hounds.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 1:45 pm to
Ya i may have them moved around a bit but something like that. I was very happy the closed it off will a really strong entry in The Crippled God. Lots of the final books feel rushed and sort of checklist like get everyone here to do whatever and wrap up some secondary story's. But I really liked The Crippled God too
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8597 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 7:04 pm to
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I was very happy the closed it off will a really strong entry in The Crippled God


Agreed, it was one of the strongest finishes I can think of for a recent series, I was very pleasantly surprised, particularly with how average Dust of Dreams was.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:35 am to
Just getting back into Dust of Dreams on my re-read. Had to take a break and pick up some things that weren't as challenging reads that i could get through quickly for some instant gratification.

Its a daunting task to re-read this series but I really find it better the second go around. I have a much better grasp on what the frick is going on and how these people relate and pick up on a ton of things i missed.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 4:11 pm to
Can't believe I missed this thread since I probably promote the Malazan series around here the most

Hands down my absolute favorite series ever.

So many memorable characters.


And like many of you have mentioned, the way immortality is treated is completely different than most books. Erickson does an amazing job of really making you consider the negative aspects and of what it means to never die. The T'lann Imass especially punch you in the gut on this subject.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 3:06 pm to
Masked half spoiler below:



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The T'lann Imass especially punch you in the gut on this subject.


When the one comes back from the ritual so to speak was such a powerful sequence. That was one of the times in the series I had to sort of close the book and just stop and think for a bit.

Have you read any outside of the main 10, may pick up one of them in the coming months? I've got some other stuff I'm going to read once I finish up the crippled god on my re-read, but was considering looking into some of the other books in the Malazan world - any recommendations?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
8597 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:51 pm to
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I've got some other stuff I'm going to read once I finish up the crippled god on my re-read, but was considering looking into some of the other books in the Malazan world - any recommendations?


Have you read the Esslemont books Sally? Or the Bauchelain and Broach novellas by Erikson?

The Bauchelain/Broach novellas are great, and pretty funny.

Most of Esslemont's books are pretty solid as well. His last two in particular are fantastic. Dancer's Lament and Deadhouse Landing are prequels to the Malazan series starring Dancer and Kellanved and are right behind the best books in the original Malazan series in quality IMO (if not equally as good).
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 8:11 am to
No I haven't, it that's what I wanted to know. Will probably check out esselmont on your recommendation though once I finish up this other book I want to check out.
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