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Lord Foul’s Bane

Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:23 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11588 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 4:23 pm
I rad this back in the 80’s and loved it. Thomas Covenant was my first real exposure to an anti-hero. Steven R Donaldson is a unique writer who took what we saw as “fantasy” in a completely new direction. For the time it was completely groundbreaking.


I’m listening to it on audible now and man, maybe because the reader is a really good voice actor, but I’m hating Covenant so much! He’s a real piece of shite and insufferable.

I know it’s tied to his leprosy and I know that’s the whole point, but I’m still surprised at how much my opinion of him changed.

Anyone else every have this happen
From listening to a book versus reading it?

Also, I still recommend the series. The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. It’s an amazing story.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
10322 posts
Posted on 8/25/26 at 8:14 pm to
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but I’m hating Covenant so much! He’s a real piece of shite and insufferable.



Not sure how you didn't think he was a complete piece of shite the first time you read it. Despite being very well written, I was never a gigantic fan of the series because of that (even back in the early 90s when there was a dearth of good fantasy). I mean it was solid enough that I read all of the sequels, but I wouldn't really recommend it to people.

The Gap cycle by Donaldson on the other hand is one of the best Sci fi series of all time for me (have to push through the first book to get there though).
This post was edited on 8/25/26 at 8:16 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11588 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:12 am to
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Not sure how you didn't think he was a complete piece of shite the first time you read it


I think it was a combination of being young and excited about any new fantasy, and reading the book in my voice, with my inflections. The audible actor really lays on Covenant's miserable attitude thick.

Also, I have been remembering the overall feeling the trilogies left me with, which end well.

I read the first of the Gap Cycle when it came out and found it hard to get through. I never followed up with the sequels.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96935 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 12:58 pm to
For you Louisiana baws that don't know, Lord Foul's Bane is set, at least partially, in Carville, Louisiana, because that was the location of the Leprosorium for the continental United States (it is now a Louisiana National Guard base).

#Themoreyouknow
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11588 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 1:26 pm to
I grew up in Baton Rouge in the 70's (I'm 59), and I remember that there was a leper colony in the state. My Aunt Esta once threatened to send me and my cousin there if we didn't stop eating green plums off her plum tree.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
10322 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 6:55 pm to
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read the first of the Gap Cycle when it came out and found it hard to get through


Yeah, the first book is like a completely different series compared to the rest of the series. I'd put the first below any of the Thomas Covenant books, but put the rest of the series above anything in the Covenant series by a decent amount.

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The audible actor really lays on Covenant's miserable attitude thick.



I mean, him immediately raping someone early in the book kinda did it for me.

But he's not meant to be a truly likeable I don't think. And I understand on being excited for new fantasy at the time, main reason I read the second trilogy after being iffy on the first trilogy. But as you said, both trilogies end well (never read any of the later ones).

I kinda put Thomas Covenant in the same category as Memory Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams. Well written but plodding stories with terrible and annoying main characters. I don't regret reading them back then, but don't have any urge to reread.
This post was edited on 8/26/26 at 6:59 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
11588 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:22 am to
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I kinda put Thomas Covenant in the same category as Memory Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams. Well written but plodding stories with terrible and annoying main characters. I don't regret reading them back then, but don't have any urge to reread.



Agreed! Those are a slog.
Posted by Burt Macklin
Member since Apr 2019
233 posts
Posted on 9/1/26 at 12:22 pm to
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I kinda put Thomas Covenant in the same category as Memory Sorrow and Thorn by Tad Williams. Well written but plodding stories with terrible and annoying main characters. I don't regret reading them back then, but don't have any urge to reread.
This. Re-read Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn last year. Loved them when they came out, but was a real slog on re-read.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13314 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:16 pm to
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Thomas Covenant


I was a science fiction maniac in the 70's. And I really, really, hated this one. Gigantic slog for a pay off that wasn't remotely worth it.
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