- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: USWNT files federal discrimination suit against US Soccer, demand equal pay
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:52 pm to Stewie Griffin
Posted on 3/31/16 at 1:52 pm to Stewie Griffin
quote:
Not their fault the men couldn't make it.
You're not understanding him. He's pointing out the difference between the men and women when it comes to the Olympics (the women's team is the national team; the men send an U-23 side with three possible senior players).
0
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:05 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
this ad revenue you speak of going to include ALL events that both team
I'm referring specifically to revenue paid directly to USSF (not to FIFA for the WC). We can't control what FIFA makes and what FIFA pays to the respetive federations for men's and womens teams - though posts in this thread already make it look proporationaly to already be a higher payment to the women's team than the men's compared to revenue.
I'm assuming this is stuff like the banner borders along the field, etc for the games
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:11 pm to Tigerstark
quote:
'm referring specifically to revenue paid directly to USSF
From Reddit, total revenues in each program's world cup year.
quote:
For FY 2016 from April 2015 through March 2016, which includes the women's World Cup and the victory tour they went on, the USWNT brought in 26.7M.
For FY 2015 from April 2014 through March 2015, which includes the men's World Cup, the USMNT brought in 27.6M.
I'm digging to find a break down of what FIFA paid to USSF. I think it's:
Men's World Cup: $12.9 million
Women's World Cup: $3.2 million
EDIT: Image
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:15 pm to Stewie Griffin
Let me know about the other three years too ;-)
And excuse me if reddit isn't the best source.
Which is the only reason I could support this lawsuit - if USSF isn't giving the women's team the data to run the numbers, then they should be compelled to do so (imo. I have no idea about if they are actually legally compelled).
And excuse me if reddit isn't the best source.
Which is the only reason I could support this lawsuit - if USSF isn't giving the women's team the data to run the numbers, then they should be compelled to do so (imo. I have no idea about if they are actually legally compelled).
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:16 pm to Tigerstark
quote:
And excuse me if reddit isn't the best source.
Reddit was quoting the USSF report. I edited to add the image compiled from USSF's AGM.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:18 pm to Tigerstark
I think the women are already saying that the numbers aren't accurate, so I'm not sure if the reports can be believed or are for other purposes. It could leave revenue out, etc.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:21 pm to Tigerstark
quote:
I think the women are already saying that the numbers aren't accurate
Actually, I think they're using those very numbers in the lawsuit, specifically that they out-generated the men by $20 million last year (which is skewed because one team played in a WC, one didn't, and which is why comparing FY15 to FY16 is more fair).
The only numbers they are questioning is how sponsorship and TV money is split, because US Soccer sells those without gender specification.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:22 pm to Tigerstark
Doesn't FIFA mandate a pay out of 3500 for all men's players when they are with their national team? Is that the equal pay the women are referring to?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:26 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Doesn't FIFA mandate a pay out of 3500 for all men's players when they are with their national team? Is that the equal pay the women are referring to?
From the suit, this is what US Soccer pays its players
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:29 pm to Stewie Griffin
Anyone else amused that Hope Solo was equal treatment? If she were a man, she would not have been playing in that last World Cup
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:29 pm to Stewie Griffin
Can you link me to the report?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:30 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
Anyone else amused that Hope Solo was equal treatment? If she were a man, she would not have been playing in that last World Cup
Equality can only go one way. They don't want equal.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:31 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 3/31/16 at 2:37 pm to Stewie Griffin
So much isn't said - if FIFA paid the US women 2m like they claim for winning it - 75k per person is a great breakdown for that for a 24 man roster.
Germany made over 35m for winnging the men's world cup. Likewise the men's split for winning would be good for that.
The true comparisions need real specific data which USSF should provide - but the public domain will have no access or knowledge of at this point.
Germany made over 35m for winnging the men's world cup. Likewise the men's split for winning would be good for that.
The true comparisions need real specific data which USSF should provide - but the public domain will have no access or knowledge of at this point.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:47 pm to Tigerstark
There are some things in there that are legitimate complaints. The men and women get different per diem rates? 
Overall, pay them a percentage of what the teams bring in. Make the percentages the same for the men and women and let the market decide what it is worth.
If I am honest though, I would perfectly OK not paying them anything to play on the national team. Cover their expenses in full but players should be playing for the the
(nationalism) and not for the paycheck. The pay should be a nice to have rather than the requirement.
The issue is that the women get paid crap in the professional league and the USWNT is actually a way for them to earn a decent living.
Overall, pay them a percentage of what the teams bring in. Make the percentages the same for the men and women and let the market decide what it is worth.
If I am honest though, I would perfectly OK not paying them anything to play on the national team. Cover their expenses in full but players should be playing for the the
(nationalism) and not for the paycheck. The pay should be a nice to have rather than the requirement. The issue is that the women get paid crap in the professional league and the USWNT is actually a way for them to earn a decent living.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 3:50 pm to lynxcat
quote:
Overall, pay them a percentage of what the teams bring in. Make the percentages the same for the men and women and let the market decide what it is worth.
I agree with this, but US Soccer doesn't distinguish what each team makes come the end of the fiscal year. They bunch it all up into one figure, probably because the guys typically make 20x what the girls make when they aren't parading around on some WC celebration tour.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 4:25 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
They bunch it all up into one figure, probably because the guys typically make 20x what the girls make when they aren't parading around on some WC celebration tour.
No. They break revenues down by men and women. Except for TV/sponsorships. Which aren't sold by gender.
And their projections have the women making more this year when neither team has a World Cup. Not exactly 20 times less than the men.
Meanwhile, in each team's respective WC year, the men brought in 27.6 million in revenue. The women 26.7 million.
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:07 pm to Stewie Griffin
So pay them more if that's the numbers. This isn't a difficult conversation. If they bring in that kind of market value then pay them.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:20 pm to lynxcat
You bout to get downvoted brah
Posted on 3/31/16 at 5:21 pm to Stewie Griffin
quote:
The women 26.7 million.
So with 4 extra games they still didnt beat the men?
Page 7 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News