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re: What are people eating?

Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Bass Tiger
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Cleaned 20 crappie yesterday.

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8396 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Nope. Farmers are getting lower prices this year compared to last. For example last year avg price/lb on catfish was 1.35


Cattle prices are up compared to recent years but that is after nearly a decade of exceptionally low prices.

Now that those prices are better, feed skyrocketed so we are looking at different sourcing. Fuel is high, the drought sent hay up, though we typically cut our own. The drought is so bad we are bailing whatever just to get through the winter. The cows ate the leaves up to about 5’ high in the woods.

We will be “ok” but we culled a lot of cows we’d typically keep and sold all the heifers we keep some years as replacements. Scaled back the operation 20%. May cull further after weaning the fall calves.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2296 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Where's the brunt of cost increase coming from? Are producers having to charge more because feed costs have increased? Is it gasoline prices for transportation? Processing?

You have to understand that basically, the only producer that names the price for the product is the one that deals in direct sales to the end user.
Agricultural products are normally sold by the large volume producer through pre-production contracts with established pricing arrangements.
Agricultural products provided by smaller producers and those larger producers without pre-priced contracts are normally sold on the open market for whatever price the commercial buyers are willing to offer. In times of over supply these producers are often forced to sell at a net loss but the processors and other middlemen as well as the retailers still maintain their ability to make a profit.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2296 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:15 pm to
Damn! Same "Post check" bug again made another double post for me.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4745 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Our domestic catfish sales are down.


I prefer my catfish to be from the heavy regulated ponds in Vietnam or Indonesia.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2296 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:23 pm to
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I prefer my catfish to be from the heavy regulated ponds in Vietnam or Indonesia.

Yup, they have multi-level operations. Caged chickens dropping their manure to a flock of ducks that re-process it and supply it to the catfish in the ponds below.
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1248 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:25 pm to
Given all that stash why not buy a generator?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35565 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:37 pm to
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What planet are you living on? Broccoli = 12.9 grams protein Steak = 112 grams protein


I think the units are confusing everyone. Broccoli is much heavier per lb than steak. 20 lb of steak you just throw it over your shoulder and walk normally. You ever tried carrying 20 lbs of broccoli? Forget about it. You’d need a buggy.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:44 pm to
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I think the units are confusing everyone.


Pound for Pound was the comparison... The poster contended that there was more protein per pound of broccoli than per pound of steak...

Dude was an idiot and doubled down on it...
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35565 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:45 pm to
I understand that but you can’t carry 20 lbs of broccoli. At minimum it would have to be bagged.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14071 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:47 pm to
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For example last year avg price/lb on catfish was 1.35 Right now it’s 1.17
is that live weight? Retail fillets are $9-10 NLa.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12043 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:49 pm to
Catfish, once the poor man's fish, has skyrocketed to $10.99 a pound on the east coast.

People need to shop for deep sales; I know many people who shop for discounted meats whose sell-by dates are just a day or two away.

Even beans, an alternate source of protein and fiber, have gotten expensive and one has to hunt for sales to stock up.

The Brandon economy, may the regressives choke on their edamame.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:52 pm to
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So if domestic and import sales are all down then wtf are people eating for protein?

And grocery prices should be tanking with the level of inventory out there. None of this makes any damn sense but you’re about to see a ton of producers, processors, farmers go under in 2024 if it doesn’t get better.


Well we can only hope it's a more widespread movement of getting away from overbuying grocery store protein.

Everyone should know what food their food ate. As many people as possible putting as few links in the supply chain between them and their protein as possible is going to do wonders for our society.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4262 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Those figures are per pound dumbass...

Two ounces of steak has MORE protein than a whole pound of broccoli...


You are correct, I read it incorrectly.

It's per calorie, not pound.

However, it's even more relevant per calorie. And I linked to that above.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
8239 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:56 pm to
Trying to do my part. I eat 18oz of chicken/beef/turkey per day.

I go shopping once every 2 weeks and probably buy about 15 pounds of meat
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Catfish, once the poor man's fish, has skyrocketed to $10.99 a pound on the east coast.


Why lie and conflate this issue?

Where are you shopping that catfish is 11 dollars a pound?
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6610 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:59 pm to

Red beans.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8326 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:59 pm to
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We end up paying more for ground beef, but much, much less for good steaks.



The ground beef is amazing. Cow was 1/4 Waygu.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82386 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:01 pm to
I'm not seeing any of this out in the pnw yet - I get beautiful large gulf shrimp at $9/lb, premium steak hamburgers for $7/lb and fresh PNW salmon for ~$11 to $14/lb and that's about all I eat. Hope things improve for yall soon - I'm def never giving up meat.

ETA - farm raised local eggs $6 per dozen and avocados I eat a ton of as well
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112642 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 2:06 pm to
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I prefer my catfish to be from the heavy regulated ponds in Vietnam or Indonesia.


Did you ever buy canned seafood from China? We all know that all canned meats contain sodium. I looked at the ingredients on a can of tuna fish from China. The fine print said 'Sodium..0'
I guess they aren't covered by our truth in advertising laws.
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