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Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:34 am to Rex
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DOLAN SPRINGS, Ariz.
I've been through here on the way to the Grand Canyon. Its a shithole.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:38 am to SpidermanTUba
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Posted By SpidermanTUba
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Deserve death? Come on Rex.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:40 am to Rex
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what you deserve
the frick?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:41 am to Rex
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Teach a 9 year old to use a sub-machine gun and you get what you deserve?
for once I agree with Rex. The most a 9 year old (especially a girl) should be shooting is a pump 20 gauge and 243 youth model rifle.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:46 am to mmcgrath
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I am sure you were a huge kid at 9 so I guess you could make an exception for 9 year olds with the arms of a 16 year old, but there really isn't a good reason to give a 9 year old this type of gun.
I have no idea what your first sentence and the rolling eyes emoticon is supposed to mean. I was a pretty small kid, actually. Played point guard and was usually one of the smaller players until high school. Certainly skinny.
I had ZERO issues firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13.
A 9 year old who was small, uncoordinated or afraid is a bad combination to fire these kinds of weapons. "There is no good reason" is a pretty subjective and pointless addition to the discussion. According to many on the left, "there is no good reason" for lots of the gun freedoms in this country.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:48 am to Rex
quote:You are a vile being Rex.
and you get what you deserve?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:49 am to ChewyDante
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I had ZERO issues firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13.
You had ZERO reason to be firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13 and not enough intelligence to know it. Even if a 9 year old is physically capable of controlling a Uzi he/she can't possibly appreciate all the ramifications of its use.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:52 am to Rex
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You had ZERO reason to be firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13
bullshite it was fun and awesome. We went to crawfish pond and tore the cottonmouths up.
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not enough intelligence to know it
beg to differ
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. Even if a 9 year old is physically capable of controlling a Uzi he/she can't possibly appreciate all the ramifications of its use.
9 year old is too young. 12-13 depending on the maturity of the person is fine.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:52 am to ChewyDante
You can think there is no good reason for something and not want to outlaw it.
I think there is this phenomena among gun rights supports to sort of overcompensate for liberal rhetoric. That is to say, we see them go on about scary black cop killing baby murdering weapons of war and then we go "nah man they're totally safe guns don't kill people, people do" and we can lose our healthy respect of what these tools can do when mismanaged.
There is no reason for a 9 year old girl to fire an automatic weapon and parents should not expose her and the people around her to risk for no reason. Give her 5 more years or something, break her in on other weapons. I just can't figure out the reason they did this and "because she can" is not legitimate with kids... they "can" do a lot of things.
I think there is this phenomena among gun rights supports to sort of overcompensate for liberal rhetoric. That is to say, we see them go on about scary black cop killing baby murdering weapons of war and then we go "nah man they're totally safe guns don't kill people, people do" and we can lose our healthy respect of what these tools can do when mismanaged.
There is no reason for a 9 year old girl to fire an automatic weapon and parents should not expose her and the people around her to risk for no reason. Give her 5 more years or something, break her in on other weapons. I just can't figure out the reason they did this and "because she can" is not legitimate with kids... they "can" do a lot of things.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:52 am to Rex
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So wait... you can do something unwise that endangers somebody's life and NOT deserve death?
Are you making this about Obama?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:54 am to Rex
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You had ZERO reason to be firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13 and not enough intelligence to know it. Even if a 9 year old is physically capable of controlling a Uzi he/she can't possibly appreciate all the ramifications of its use.
I had more firearm intelligence at 12/13 than you ever will in your adult life. Kids hunt sand shoot guns all the time, Rex. I know that chaps your arse but tough shite.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:55 am to Rex
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You had ZERO reason to be firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13 and not enough intelligence to know it. Even if a 9 year old is physically capable of controlling a Uzi he/she can't possibly appreciate all the ramifications of its use.
Thanks for your philosophical objection. It's especially rich coming from someone that said a man deserved to die for teaching a kid to shoot a gun.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:56 am to Rex
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You had ZERO reason to be firing sub machine guns at 12 or 13 and not enough intelligence to know it. Even if a 9 year old is physically capable of controlling a Uzi he/she can't possibly appreciate all the ramifications of its use.
Are you saying 9 year olds shouldn't be using Uzis? Because I agree with you there. But is that the only point you were trying to make with this thread?
And if it is, why post the thread here?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:58 am to upgrayedd
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It's especially rich coming from someone that said a man deserved to die for teaching a kid to shoot a gun.
I've never said that, liar.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:59 am to Rex
Yes you did.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:01 am to ChewyDante
quote:When I said "I wouldn't say "get what you deserve" but it has to be pretty unsafe to put a fully automatic uzi in the hands of a 9 year old, no matter how close you are. " I was saying that it was unsafe for the instructor to allow a 9 year old to hold and fire the UZI on automatic even though he was standing right next to her. As for the rolling eye thing it was in response to your thinking you would be able to handle such a gun at 9 in spite of your obvious physical limitations at that age. As a kid you might think it was fun but when you grow up you should realize how dangerous it was.
I have no idea what your first sentence and the rolling eyes emoticon is supposed to mean. I was a pretty small kid, actually. Played point guard and was usually one of the smaller players until high school. Certainly skinny.
quote:I don't understand how you could state that it was a bad combination in your first sentence and then call the comment "no good reason" pointless and subjective. Obviously you are worried about gun freedoms overall but you should have to admit there is a line between responsibly handling a gun and being reckless.
A 9 year old who was small, uncoordinated or afraid is a bad combination to fire these kinds of weapons. "There is no good reason" is a pretty subjective and pointless addition to the discussion. According to many on the left, "there is no good reason" for lots of the gun freedoms in this country.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:01 am to Tiguar
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Yes you did.
Er, no.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:01 am to Rex
Change your thread title then.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:02 am to Tiguar
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There is no reason for a 9 year old girl to fire an automatic weapon and parents should not expose her and the people around her to risk for no reason. Give her 5 more years or something, break her in on other weapons. I just can't figure out the reason they did this and "because she can" is not legitimate with kids... they "can" do a lot of things.
I didn't use, "just because she can" and I even specifically said that it in some instances and certainly can be irresponsible or negligent. I don't know all the details of this incident, family, etc. to blankety say "there is no good reason" for kids to fire an automatic weapon though is a worthless argument.
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think there is this phenomena among gun rights supports to sort of overcompensate for liberal rhetoric. That is to say, we see them go on about scary black cop killing baby murdering weapons of war and then we go "nah man they're totally safe guns don't kill people, people do" and we can lose our healthy respect of what these tools can do when mismanaged.
This sounds like a lot of straw man bullshite to me. Conservative gun rights activists are usually virulent about safety measures and have plenty respect for the danger of firearms.
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