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Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:37 am to ChewyDante
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According to your logic, we also sacrifice kids for alcohol, tobacco, now marijuana, all differing forms of transportation, etc. The horror! Child genocide! Abortion is cool though.
So are fezzes.
Wow you are a bad parent.
Not only do you provide your kids firearms, apparently you provide them booze and drugs. Do you provide them hookers with all that blow?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:39 am to ChewyDante
quote:The good reasons I could come up with are for hunting and defense. Obviously a 9 year old wouldn't be expected to defend the home against a criminal, but if they wanted to hunt with a parent a small caliber rifle would probably be OK... not an UZI or a handgun.
Do you have a good reason for a 13 year old to fire one of these weapons? A 17 year old? An adult? That's the issue I have with that argument. It's common from the anti-gun left and it is worthless in a reasoned discussion.
Therefore "no good reason" to hand a 9 year old an UZI. While you think there might be 9 year olds out there who could handle them, I doubt the numbers would be more than one in a million.
I wouldn't say there has to be a good reason to begin using a firearm, but when there are a number of bad reasons (as in the case of a 9 year old girl) you should have some very good reasons to make up the difference.
I am for gun registration, not necessarily a lot of restrictions.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:39 am to asurob1
Hey Rex, this is how I know you are ignorant rabble rousing prog.
Did you ever consider:
IT WAS THE GUY'S JOB!!!
So if he said no I wont teach her, would you advocate for him to lose his job? would you expect him to do what he is paid to do, and provide a service to paying customers?
This was not some militia guy forcing his sweet girl to shoot because of fear of Obama.
Get a grip and please find a brain.
Did you ever consider:
IT WAS THE GUY'S JOB!!!
So if he said no I wont teach her, would you advocate for him to lose his job? would you expect him to do what he is paid to do, and provide a service to paying customers?
This was not some militia guy forcing his sweet girl to shoot because of fear of Obama.
Get a grip and please find a brain.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:40 am to ninthward
this is not about the 2nd you lib morons
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:42 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:I am in favor of age restrictions on driving a car, which seems to be the general consensus. Yet we don't need one on firing an UZI?
So how do you feel about teenagers driving automobiles and having senseless accidents that results in deaths?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:45 am to ninthward
quote:I would expect any grown adult to walk away from a job that required them to do something dangerous. Just saying "it was my job" is not an excuse for a lack of personal responsibility. Especially in the case of a licensed firearm instructor who is supposed to stay in charge of the situation.
Did you ever consider:
IT WAS THE GUY'S JOB!!!
So if he said no I wont teach her, would you advocate for him to lose his job? would you expect him to do what he is paid to do, and provide a service to paying customers?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:49 am to mmcgrath
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I am in favor of age restrictions on driving a car, which seems to be the general consensus. Yet we don't need one on firing an UZI?
Crazy ain't it.
The cult of the gun would have no restrictions on anyone walking around armed to the teeth if they could have their way.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:50 am to Tiguar
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I agree, 9 year old girls have no business firing an automatic weapon.
Absolutely. Not sure who thought this was a good idea.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:51 am to asurob1
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But you are! You showed us all how great you are when you succeeded in mowing down a target at 13 without a single human causality. American Hero I tells you!
Oh wow, really intelligent insight.
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Could give not one shite what you think.
Join the club.
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At no time should any pre-teen be armed with an automatic weapon. It highlights poor parenting.
Surely you are the authority on that and it is universally and unconditionally true.
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This conversation has zip to do with political affiliation.
A particular point of contention that I and another poster have within a discussion is not really pertinent to your liking or disliking. Again, another completely irrelevant and invalid comment from you. I didn't attempt to singularly define any part of the "discussion" as you apparently wish to do. You sound like an emotional nut.
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Typical of your type to make it so. I could give a shite if her parents were card carrying rush limbaugh fans.
Ok? Nor do I. And?
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They were still stupid fricks to place that much power in a kid's hands. Shitty parents.
I don't necessarily disagree with this. I think the parents likely hold the lion share of responsibility for this incident. Perhaps negligence on the part of the instructor as well.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:53 am to asurob1
quote:It is. But I am hopeful that most gun advocates still believe there should be some reasonable restrictions / registration. Its just that the minority gun nuts are the loudest and there are a lot of sheep ready to follow.
Crazy ain't it.
The cult of the gun would have no restrictions on anyone walking around armed to the teeth if they could have their way.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:58 am to mmcgrath
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Therefore "no good reason" to hand a 9 year old an UZI. While you think there might be 9 year olds out there who could handle them, I doubt the numbers would be more than one in a million.
I'm very pro 2nd amendment.
And I think giving a 9 year old a semi-automatic is a bad idea, much less a fully automatic.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 11:59 am
Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:58 am to mmcgrath
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It is. But I am hopeful that most gun advocates still believe there should be some reasonable restrictions / registration. Its just that the minority gun nuts are the loudest and there are a lot of sheep ready to follow.
Yup, this sort of incident is where one would expect a responsible gun lobby to come out against such foolishness.
I fully expect the NRA to issue a statement saying that if only we armed kids at a younger age this sort of thing would never have happened.
Because...they are the center of dumbassery on this subject.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:03 pm to Rex
quote:Well, yea.
So wait... you can do something unwise that endangers somebody's life and NOT deserve death?
Was that serious question or are you advocating for much harsher punishments for criminals?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:05 pm to asurob1
quote:What foolishness? What legislation could have prevented this? Age limits on owning guns?
Yup, this sort of incident is where one would expect a responsible gun lobby to come out against such foolishness.
In life, shite just happens. It's just the way the world works.
quote:You want to put a bet on whether or not that is their statement?
I fully expect the NRA to issue a statement saying that if only we armed kids at a younger age this sort of thing would never have happened.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:15 pm to asurob1
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Yup, this sort of incident is where one would expect a responsible gun lobby to come out against such foolishness.
I fully expect the NRA to issue a statement saying that if only we armed kids at a younger age this sort of thing would never have happened.
Because...they are the center of dumbassery on this subject.
I don't know what the NRA will have to say but this story is unique in that it involved an automatic weapon, which is rare for adults to have access to, much less a nine-year-old girl, and she seemed to have been handling the gun okay when it was in semiauto mode.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:29 pm to Chimlim
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happy were you to read this story Rex?
Not happy at all. A nine year old has to go through life knowing she killed a man. This was a case of child abuse.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:33 pm to Rex
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This was a case of child abuse.
I guess the kid needs to be turned over to your people at the state because they are the only ones capable of raising other people's children.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:36 pm to Rex
Get what you deserve?
That's a truly hateful statement.
That's a truly hateful statement.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 12:59 pm to Tiguar
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Been posted but surprisingly your thread is much better. I agree, 9 year old girls have no business firing an automatic weapon.
True.
Also, the instructor is at more fault. He shouldn't have let a 9 year old shoot a select fire weapon.
If he did, he should have held the weapon so he wouldn't die.
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