re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma"

Repost that intolerance meme?

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Stop playing ignorant. Everyone knew Trump would be slammed for this as soon as the words left his mouth. You can see Kelly's reaction.

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Who's playing ignorant? Tell me where you read anywhere in my post that I'm surprised by the reaction Trump's words got from a hostile media.

I actually am a little surprised how shamelessly some saw fit to pardon the leftist radical Antifa movement, though I shouldn't be, given that they essentially did so the entire campaign season and that's when they were physically attacking Republicans and Independents, not just white supremacists and Klansmen.

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Trump even knew this would happen. He's just stubborn.

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Of course he knew it would happen. But unlike your chickenshit analysis that it therefore makes him stubborn, I view truth telling and fighting false narratives knowing that it will result in political fallout to be courageous and praiseworthy.

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It's a moral victory at best. You think this is going to help Trump get his agenda through Congress?

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It's a moral victory at best. You think this is going to help Trump get his agenda through Congress?

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No it wasn't. He correctly articulated what most Americans believe: violence, regardless of your motives, is wrong.

He put a name to the violent left, and called out the media for refusing to apply the same standards of anti-violence to the left it places on the right.

I've noticed several articles since his presser using the term "alt-left." It has the lefties in an uproar because he successfully put the limelight on their own hypocrisy. They don't like that. They don't like not being in control of the narrative.

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You know what Trump's comments definitely were?

Bad timing

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I agree. I believe he was correct in his point, but wrong in his timing. Circle back to the violent left, ANTIFA, etc in an address separate from the immediate response. The guy in the car killing the woman made it necessary to give that moment basically a sole address standing alone. Then speak to the broader truth later.

Although I think it was an error, I'm getting more and more disgusted with the response to it. The "Trump is a racist and white supremacist sympathizer" is morally reprehensible given what he has said about this hate group. Speaking the whole truth just at perhaps the wrong time when part of the truth should have taken center stage for a moment is not worthy of the hysterics we've seen. People are losing their shite over the "bad timing" of the whole truth.

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So it's not rational to build memorials?

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Not really, we do it out of emotion and sentimentality

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Can we not pretend that these "Nazis" are anything like the German Nazis?

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They do this for political reasons, once you brand someone a racist or Nazi there is no reasoning with them, that is why the alt left condone violence against them They are what they are, neo-nazis, they are not real national socialists, they do not run for office, or try to gain political office. They are uneducated, misguided garbage that feel they have no place in society just like anitfa. Antifa is just the left side if this spectrum and surprisingly non tolerant and communist.
Only in the USA can these two viewpoints be cultivated, because put either of these groups in a French village in 1940 and their view point will change, or put them in the Ukraine in 1944.

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People are emotional. Why don't you rationally explain to me why people on the right think history is being erased (huh) because we are taking down statues? 

Or why conservatives oppose gay marriage because it infringes on the "sanctity" of marriage?

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Can someone give us valid reason for taking down statues of important people in our nation's history?... it seems It's All About emotion rather a net positive on our imperfect civilization.

Can you give us valid reasons for rewriting the definition of marriage?

It's done now...you're welcome!

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Not really, we do it out of emotion and sentimentality

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So can I go dig up all your family's graves and tombstones?

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You're trying to reason with a side that calls everyone literally hitler.

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I think we all know that we aren't going to persuade our Resident LibTards at all. SFP's post is food for thought for people who like to actually use REASON to guide their own lives.

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So can I go dig up all your family's graves and tombstones?

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No, because those are private property.

The statues are public.

I thought this would be an easy difference for a Republican to understand.