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re: Kyle Chapman set to speak at rally - cahoots
[quote]ANTIFA isn't engaging in free speech, they are rioting at the scheduled, permitted, and constitutional protected free speech of others in order to stop their speech. And that isn't debatable, it is in their actions and it is what THEY say they do. [/quote] Where in the constitution does i...
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re: Kyle Chapman set to speak at rally - cahoots
[quote]Well you see, there is a difference between attacking someone because you don't like what they have to say, and attacking people who attack the first amendment. [/quote] The right to free speech paradoxically gives you the right to speak out against free speech if you so choose. Our laws ...
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re: Kyle Chapman set to speak at rally - cahoots
[quote]No one, not even Law Enforcement was doing anything about these vicious attacks so citizens like Chapman took up the cause. [/quote] There is video of him doing the attacking. That's why he was arrested....
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re: Kyle Chapman set to speak at rally - cahoots
[quote]Why not? MAGA [/quote] :lol: The answer I was expecting...
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Kyle Chapman set to speak at rally - cahoots
[quote]A Daly City man charged this week with possessing a lead-filled stick that he allegedly used to hit counterprotesters during a March rally in Berkeley could face up to eight years in state prison because of a prior violent felony, officials said Friday. Since his arrest after the pro-Presi...
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re: Went back and watched the press conference - cahoots
Who is the alt-left? Who is the alt-right? ...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]ETA: Had he just stopped though, the press would have just moved on to the next outrage issue. In the end, it doesn't really matter. The lines are dug really deep.[/quote] True, but this was an easy political play for Trump. He did what everyone told him not to do. I know certain peopl...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
To answer your question, I think Trump is engaging in false equivalence by equating the "alt-right" with the "alt-left," both of which are loose terms and involve many factions. The story is that a new-Nazi killed another human being, not that the alt-left is the same as the alt-right. I think i...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]I think you are one of the ones that calls posters idiots regularly. [/quote] Check my post history, chief [quote]This thread isn't about statues.[/quote] Yeah it's about false equivalence and false dilemma...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.[/quote] Either we keep the statues up and preserve our culture/history, or we take them down and rip it apart! Uh, w...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]But I'm just helping you to be more rational, I would hate for you to continue to suffer the irrational memorials of your family. I'll even pay for it, let me know where they are.[/quote] You are completely misunderstanding my point. I am not suggesting that there is anything inherently ri...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]So can I go dig up all your family's graves and tombstones?[/quote] No, because those are private property. The statues are public. I thought this would be an easy difference for a Republican to understand. ...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]I agree. I believe he was correct in his point, but wrong in his timing. Circle back to the violent left, ANTIFA, etc in an address separate from the immediate response. The guy in the car killing the woman made it necessary to give that moment basically a sole address standing alone. Then sp...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]So it's not rational to build memorials?[/quote] Not really, we do it out of emotion and sentimentality ...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]Because they are called memorials, root word memory, meaning to remember past events, we call past events history. [/quote] So? It's not rational to believe that the legitimacy of one's history/culture rests on the existence of a statue erected by the government. ...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]Here is the test... ask a leftist to explain an opinion then ask why at least 3 times to see how much they have thought about the opinion. 99% of the time, when they get past the talking point, they have no idea or understanding what they are talking about[/quote] People are emotional. Why...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]You think it's a sane reason for Congress to do nothing because of their ferlings of hate for Trump.[/quote] It's not feelings, it's politics. [quote]The left could win the day by saying they dislike the president but we still owe the people a hard Day's work. Instead. Bitching. Moaning...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]And no, it doesn't always "appear" like anything. It appears to a great number of us exactly as it is. Some of us aren't idiots who can understand that scenarios aren't always dichotomous.[/quote] Stop playing ignorant. Everyone knew Trump would be slammed for this as soon as the words lef...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]The problem is critical thinking. The left had abandoned critical thinking in favor of feels. That is why all of their arguments are superficial talking points. [/quote] You're expecting people to think 100% critically, rationally, and with emotional influence 48 hours after someone is kil...
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re: It's not a "False Equivalence"; it's a "False Choice/Dilemma" - cahoots
[quote]He was, again in my opinion, correct to point out that both groups that day were wrong. The left, until now, has been winning the PR battle. Trump was correct to call out the entire situation for what it was when he had everyone's attention.[/quote] It's a moral victory at best. You think ...
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