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manwich
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re: IP topic of the day: The Pirate Bay's legal policy

wouldn't that be bartering for a service?

i'm not on spotify but don't you have to sift through ads to stay free?

Spotify makes money by hosting the ads that you have to see and is content with that. i assume they pay the labels out of their ad revenue for the use of the music


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Bard
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Why am I not pirating instead?


Because you are listening to music whose licensing fee has been paid by Spotify. They recoup that money by getting advertisers to advertise on their service (like Pandora does).

This is also why listening to the radio is not considered pirating.
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CollegeFBRules
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hey everyone, I'm listening to Spotify free right now. it's perfectly legal. I don't pay a penny for it in actual cash.

What am I not pirating instead?


After everything you ignored in my last post, only to say "Stay tuned", I'm done with the argument at this point. Besides, my kids are home from school.

Nothing has changed through this whole thread. You guys are advocating the free and open thievery of everything anyone has ever created.


WikiTiger
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coca cola


OpenCola


manwich
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sharing is caring



Bard
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Nothing has changed through this whole thread. You guys are advocating the free and open thievery of everything anyone has ever created.


Unless it's an idea Wiki came up with that would make him rich ;)


WikiTiger
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Because you are listening to music whose licensing fee has been paid by Spotify. They recoup that money by getting advertisers to advertise on their service (like Pandora does).

This is also why you can listen to the radio and not be pirating instead.


Right. So my point is that people have innovated and figured out how to make a profit while giving away the product.



CollegeFBRules
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KFC, coca cola, and numerous other companies have kept their recipes a secret using compartmentalization. While not directly related to data property rights, it shows that the concept is possible. Had they sold the ingredients to their products somebody would have "stolen" it and made copies, hence they protected those ideas.


If you got the recipe, would you feel perfectly fine with mixing it up exactly as their recipe is written, slapping a MrCarton label on it, and selling it as your own stuff?


CollegeFBRules
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sharing is caring


Obviously, according to Jackson.


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WikiTiger
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Unless it's an idea Wiki came up with that would make him rich ;)


Could you be any more dense?

I never claimed exclusivity on my idea. Furthermore, first movers do typically have a market advantage, so if I did come up with an idea, even if it was copied, I would still enjoy the first mover advantage.

Like I said, these threads are funny.


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manwich
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who is reselling torrent files?


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CollegeFBRules
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Unless it's an idea Wiki came up with that would make him rich ;)


But he could literally never use the idea, because once he let it out what it was, it belongs to everyone.

For FREEEEEEEEEEEEE!


GhostofJackson
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After everything you ignored in my last post


You have some nerve, you ignored about 5 of my posts where you got blasted.


GhostofJackson
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This is grand. You know the information how to build a house is out there on the internet but people still pay others to do it? Just because you believe information that is public should be free doesn't mean you don't believe no one can profit from it.


CollegeFBRules
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You have some nerve, you ignored about 5 of my posts where you got blasted.


You self-proclaimed yourself the winner of the argument. At that point, the continued reason to have any discussion with you was rendered moot.


MrCarton
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If you someone had a magic device that made exact copies of your groceries so that for every 1 sold, this person could give out 547,000,000 exact copies and immediately beam them to anyone anywhere in the world... how many groceries would you sell, especially if they set up right across the street from you?


Wealth is not lost in your scenario. Think about the Mp3 industry.

Computers
HArd Drives
Ipods
Smartphones
Headphones
Bluetooth headphones
Arm bands to wear ipod
ipod cases
Ipod charges
Ipod speakers

All of those things have adapted to the market force of prevalent MP3 files. Money was made, a bunch of it.



Bard
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Right. So my point is that people have innovated and figured out how to make a profit while giving away the product.


They are still paying ASCAP and BMI, that's the point you are missing. Torrent sites, just like Spotify, allow access to entertainment except that they aren't paying the entertainers. Ergo, your attempts at making them equate to one another fall flat.


CollegeFBRules
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You did not answer the question.


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GhostofJackson
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You self-proclaimed yourself the winner of the argument. At that point, the continued reason to have any discussion with you was rendered moot.


If you felt otherwise, you should address the issues. As of right now there is good points against you that you are wishing weren't there.


WikiTiger
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This is grand. You know the information how to build a house is out there on the internet but people still pay others to do it? Just because you believe information that is public should be free doesn't mean you don't believe no one can profit from it.


Yup. It's like they don't even consider things like quality, brand, etc.


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