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re: I was appointed to the AL Council on Opiod Misuse and Addiction (UPDATE #2)

Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:35 am to
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:35 am to
Sad update in the OP.
Posted by autodd03
Clown world
Member since Dec 2013
2532 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:51 am to
Too much money in pharmaceuticals, criminal enforcement, private prisons and so on. You are asking these people to give up their unjust livelihoods. You are what is considered to be controlled opposition. Now they can say they heard all sides as they announce a new round of crackdowns and expand the police powers of the state.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

I left the committee meeting after his speech received resounding applause. Alabama had an opportunity to show the rest of the country that we are not backwards and to be a model of drug policy reform. We are going to blow it. 



Shocker
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:54 am to
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Tiguar


Easy to be a cynic from the sidelines.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:59 am to
Lol?

From where I stand, your cute little task force is on the sidelines
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35364 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:00 am to
Thank you for the update. Don't give up yet.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:02 am to
That is sad.

The opioid crisis is definitely alarming. I am happy that the state at least saw it fit to try and address the issue, although the end result seemed predictable for AL. We will most certainly be on the tail end of states decriminalizing/legalizing cannabis.

Appreciate the posts and updates.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:04 am to
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Alabama had an opportunity to show the rest of the country that we are not backwards and to be a model of drug policy reform. We are going to blow it.





Shocking.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 9:18 am to
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I regret not standing up, asking him direct and pointed questions, and calling out his bullshite. I have regretted it for the past couple of days.
Next time he speaks bring an iPad or laptop. Log onto the net before he starts speaking. Fact check him. Then politely ask him to clarify, based on your understanding of the facts.

FYI regarding Fentanyl "wiping out a gym";
something around 0.5mg of Fentanyl (maybe even a bit less) would lead to respiratory arrest in most people.
A "mg" is 1/1000th of a gram.
I'd guess a pack of Splenda is about a gram.
So you really are talking about "wiping out" 2000 people or more with a gram of Fentanyl.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:07 am to
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TN Bhoy


That was a novel, but a well-written piece.
I too have issues with politicizing addiction and pussyfooting around the talk of addicts as to not hurt their feelings or the feelings of the families.

Legalization of all drugs would lead to a decrease in overdoses and crime, but that, too, ironically, is taboo.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:08 am to
I know of individuals who have had success beating opiate addiction using Suboxone, Kratom, and medical marijuana. And I do believe any similar option should be available to addicts. But of course, success depends on each individual situation.

You have some great ideas IMO.




Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42171 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:09 am to
Build a wall along the Alabama/Mississippi border and make Louisiana pay for it.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16992 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:14 am to
Crack down on doctors who prescribe pain killers like candy. Prescription opioids are a bigger problem than the street drugs.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:23 am to
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Crack down on doctors who prescribe pain killers like candy.



They have already somewhat, and that is what has contributed to the heroin epidemic. Patients get cut off by their doc, so in their desperation because they're addicted, they turn to heroin because it is easier to get. And it's often cheaper on the black market than prescription pain killers are.

I do think they should look at curbing prescriptions for moderate and chronic pain. I was prescribed way more lortab than I needed when I had a bulging disc in my back. It didn't do a whole lot for the pain, but they were enjoyable to take. I was getting 90 per month for several months. Somehow I didn't get hooked. Others haven't been as fortunate.

Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:23 am to
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Crack down on doctors who prescribe pain killers like candy


That is pretty politically unfeasible, but there were two doctors in Mobile recently sentenced to 100+ years in the fed due to over-prescribed opioids. They were writing a prescription every 7 minutes of the day for 4 years.


quote:

Prescription opioids are a bigger problem than the street drugs.


That is being slowly being realized by some state legislatures and they are doing work.
Maine and Rhode Island have mandated opioid scripts run out after 7 days, and either NM or AZ is looking at 5 day maximiums for the same thing.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78362 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:29 am to
I lost a second cousin to an overdose two weeks ago. Never met the kid but he was 20 and lived in Florida. Good family, but riddled with the addiction gene . It used to express itself through alcoholism but now its opioids.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20480 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:33 am to
So, a prosecutor spoke and advocated more prosecution as a drug solution, using false statements as support, and you said absolutely nothing?

Congratulations on adding to the problem.

Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16992 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:34 am to
Yeah I know a doctor who lost his license up here in the north part of the state for it a while back. I think more of them should be made aware that they will go to jail if they engage in this practice.

Anyway, glad that those two in Mobile got stiff sentences.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 10:42 am to
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hat is pretty politically unfeasible, but there were two doctors in Mobile recently sentenced to 100+ years in the fed due to over-prescribed opioids. They were writing a prescription every 7 minutes of the day for 4 years.
Not defending the docs, but many many opiod addicted 'pain patients' are concentrated in very few offices

Therefore, those that commonly prescribe them prescribe a shite ton of them. Somebody has to feed the junkies. Now, keeping them from becoming a junkie is the real secret sauce.

Ill tell you this, the ridiculous cost and access to proper diagnostics and help is one reason people just numb up. If you have a chronic back pain issue, you have about 6-12 months worth of real diagnostic oriented care, then you are farmed off to a chronic pain management doc. With todays retarded deductibles many folks cant pay for the scans and repeat diagnostic testing following surgery needed to determine if there are additional mechanical reasons for their pain.


My wife has a ruptured disc that she had surgery on, and the costs of care have been extremely high. She was running half marathons and really wants to resume the activity, but cant due to pain and it begins to take a toll. She doesnt take much medicine, but I have sympathy for those with less resources that just turn to medication.
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 10:44 am
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