re: I think I'm FOR abortion

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You are an ignoramus if you really believe that

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Which part?

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Am I wrong for thinking we should be encouraging abortions when they inevitably get knocked up because they can't understand contraception?

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Men who refuse to wear condoms are just as much to blame. Men who screw everything that moves are as much to blame.

I think the ignorant statement is believing that people will turn to celibacy if they were cut off from assistance. There is no evidence that this would work. None.

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kill their children

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Not happening. That's illegal.

I KNOW I am for forced sterilization of welfare recipients. So there's that.

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I KNOW I am for forced sterilization of welfare recipients. So there's that.

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Any man who says he doesn't deserve a voice in the matter isn't much of a man IMO and has been hoodwinked by militant women.

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Men deserve a voice, but not the final nor deciding voice.

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There is absolutely no convergence of circumstances that will allow me to declare abortion to be necessary or beneficial.

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None? Interesting.

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why should government fund it?

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Because you either fund it there or on the law enforcement, penal system, drug treatment, housing, food, etc. etc.

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I don't feel equipped to have an opinion, not being a woman.


Children aren't self made. 2 people are involved.

And I still hate government funding planned parenthood but I'm torn.

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As long as the sperm donor in the equation isn't required to be responsible for the result of his "getting some" responsible men have no right to dictate to women what they do with a fetus that they are going to be responsible for alone.

If you want to end abortion or sharply curtail it here's a grand idea...make it a VERY serious crime to father a child and abandon it! Make drugs legal, throw every non-violent drug offender out of prison and wipe the record clean of any non-violent drug related crimes and fill those cells up with baby daddies who can't be bothered to wrap that rascal or simply pull out. For those of you who don't like the idea of drug offenders (you know...young black men) being tossed out of jail don't worry...many of them will fall into the other category also...they will soon be right back where you think they belong.

I will never understand why men on the right are so emotionally engaged over abortion but could give a damn less about young men fathering children and the courts never doing anything about it. If a woman has to seek public assistance to raise a child and the father can be identified, a fairly easy thing to do in this day and age, then that father should be legally responsible for the cost of that child, period. If he can't pay then he should be placed in a labor camp and his earnings used to offset the costs of raising his child....and if that means the frick stays in prison for 50 years until he pays society back for the cost of his failing to wrap that rascal or pull out that is the breaks. We will never address this situation because we are a male dominated culture and we would prefer to shame the woman, equally responsible for not saying no or insisting on a condom, for being a slut.