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re: I think I'm FOR abortion

Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Like using drugs, smoke cigarettes, drink soft drinks containing sugar...?


Yes
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:43 pm to
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It's fascinating to realize Western Civilization will ultimately fall b/c certain people don't like rubbers


I've been saying for years that the govt should make rubbers free to all. Put them in bars, coffee houses, movie theatres, shopping centers, athletic complexes, all over college campuses and most importantly in Baylor's athletic dorms. It would be money well spent and reduce abortions and STDs. Hell throw in the morning after pill too. We know how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Abortions could be minimized.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21858 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Good luck in life, Clevon.



I dont need luck.
I've done well for myself and my family.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22262 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:51 pm to
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I can't imagine what defunding planned parenthood is going to do to the increase in births of kids to shitty people who have no business having kids.
I was just thinking... why don't they NOT do the things that create them in the first place. Are you actually saying they don't know what causes the popcorn to pop? Really? Does your formula take into account stupidity and throwing caution to the wind - with no consequences?? Funny how we praise and pay for PP and at the same time write books on the horrors Auschwitz.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260205 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:00 pm to
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I've been saying for years that the govt should make rubbers free to all. Put them in bars, coffee houses, movie theatres, shopping centers, athletic complexes, all over college campuses and most importantly in Baylor's athletic dorms. It would be money well spent and reduce abortions and STDs. Hell throw in the morning after pill too. We know how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Abortions could be minimized


You think people would still use them. How much does a rubber cost?
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:00 pm to
How many single moms are out raising babies in the desert?

Did you really think that was some great point?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:02 pm to
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I've been saying for years that the govt should make rubbers free to all


thats neat, condoms have been free for years (decades even)

people like to frick without them, thats never going to change
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28859 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:08 pm to
I absolutely hate abortion. Few things infuriate me more than abortion.

That being said, I don't really want laws against it.

That's super hard to say.

Where I've come to be on it is that I don't want to have roe v wade overturned. As disgusting as the act itself is it would just cause more unwanted pregnancies, more kids in foster system, more people on the government tit, or unsafe back alley abortions.

None of those are good.

What I would like is to see the government take a three prong approach:

A. Make it easier and cheaper to adopt children in the US. We were going through the process and it was ungodly. The costs, paperwork, and time is stupid. Make it easier and more attractive to mothers who would otherwise have abortions to carry babies to term and adopt them.

B. Encourage safe, protected sex in committed relationships as the norm, not archaic religious stupidity. We can knock the religious right all day, but to pretend saving sex for later in life is a bad thing is beyond moronic. I'm not saying to outlaw sex before marriage or anything that extreme but the left has done such a good job of shoving sexual freedom down everybody's throats that the idea of waiting even just for a committed relationship is just seen a religious lunacy, when it's actually smart in every sense. More safe sex, less unwanted babies.



























C. Forced sterilization.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22262 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:09 pm to
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people like to frick without them, thats never going to change

But what does change is the American taxpayer subsidizing bad behavior. It's like sending somebody mail, then taking out of their mailbox, opening the envelope for them and reading it to them.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:13 pm to
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thats neat, condoms have been free for years (decades even)


Jesus, didn't know that. Where do I get the free ones?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260205 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:17 pm to
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Jesus, didn't know that. Where do I get the free ones?


Lots of bars hand em out like candy. What's one going to cost you, 50 cents?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53770 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:21 pm to
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And that makes me feel bad. I can't imagine what defunding planned parenthood is going to do to the increase in births of kids to shitty people who have no business having kids. Who will in turn probably become stuck in the same cycle.

Am I wrong for thinking we should be encouraging abortions when they inevitably get knocked up because they can't understand contraception?

My conservative side is puzzled.


thanks for posting, I have been conflicted for many years as well. "if not abortions, the black community would be 39% of our population"...let's just keep it real...not meant to be racist in any way, but thats the math...

if abortions were illegal, 39% of America would be black...now exactly how does that translate to jobs, housing, education and so on? At 13% we have our hands full

I wouldn't wish a decision to abort or not on anyone...

May God forgive us all... for even thinking what we think sometimes...
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Lots of bars hand em out like candy. What's one going to cost you, 50 cents?


I've probably been buying at the wrong place because I'm paying lots more. They charge by the inch.

Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:28 pm to
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May God forgive us all... for even thinking what we think sometimes...


Don't let your guilt get you down. Just think of all the innocent children in various parts of the world that we've killed, maimed, and disfigured. And whatever you do, don't google birth defects as a result of our actions in Iraq and other regions. It will make you sick.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5530 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:48 pm to
I've never given a shite about abortion. Let them do it.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 2:02 pm to
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The problem with abortion is the people who should be having them aren't.


I don't think this is the case. Those types of people ARE having them. They just also happen to have children as well.

I assure you, the fast majority of Women that are having abortions aren't married 27 year olds with college degrees. They are going to the extremes of abortion because they are not in a good situation.

My libertarian leaning arse completely supports full government funding of contraceptives and abortions.

The cost for these things is minuscule compared to the costs incompetent adults.

The last thing America needs is MORE poor desparate people.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23684 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Regardless of your beliefs, why should government fund it?


Government does not fund abortions. Never have as far as I recall.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:16 pm to
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How many single moms are out raising babies in the desert? Did you really think that was some great point?


The number of single moms worldwide living in abject poverty is in the millions easily.

The point was that threatening to cut off aid is not going to improve the unwanted pregnancy rate any.

The only thing that's proven to work is real sex ed and easily available and free contraception.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:19 pm to
Just think about how much worse cities like BR or NOLA would be w/o abortion. It's a very grim picture.

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:26 pm to
You are an ignoramus if you really believe that
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