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re: Half of the U.S. Population lives in these counties.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:44 am to SidewalkDawg
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:44 am to SidewalkDawg
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What is it about Urban America that makes people more liberal and vice versa?
First of all, the difference in politics between urban and metro areas is exaggerated when you have a map that shades areas either red or blue. Sometimes we're taking about a 60/40 split or a 55/45 split. Not everyone living in a city is far left. More people are just left of center.
The reasons are complicated but one is that having more people in a confined area lends itself to more rules. If you live on a few acres of land, you aren't going to disturb your neighbors very easily. Not the case when you have people living immediately next door and above you.
Another example is pollution. In Los Angeles, there are millions of drivers in a confined area. You need more regulations to prevent the city from being covered in smog (it already kinda is).
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:45 am to TejasHorn
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I see Collin and Williamson counties in TX. Hardly liberal.. just a quick glance at the map I'm sure there
Add Fort Bend County (Sugar Land) and Montgomery County (The Woodlands). Definitely not blue territory there.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:45 am to ShortyRob
quote:For some, sure. I disagree that it's some prevailing cause though. Besides, if it's just "virtue signaling" to give off an appearance, then it's hard to say it has any real basis in guilt if people aren't doing anything about it.
The former is driven by the latter.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:45 am to Quidam65
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The map includes very conservative Collin County, Texas (why is it showing blue?)
Because it has a large population. This isn't a political map, made clear by the subject line.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:48 am to SidewalkDawg
quote:One can feel bad about it, but not feel guilty either. I dislike many of our past behaviors as a nation (slavery, intermittent camps), and would argue that they are morally reprehensible. I don't personally feel any guilt for those things though.
Would you hold the position that a German who virtue signals a Jew is doing so for some other reason than German collective guilt?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:51 am to SidewalkDawg
Gubment housing, freebies, etc.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:53 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Well, if you're going to split hairs.
One can feel bad about it, but not feel guilty either.
quote:If one says, "slavery was bull shite", that's expressing that you feel bad or think poorly of what happened.
I dislike many of our past behaviors as a nation (slavery, intermittent camps), and would argue that they are morally reprehensible. I don't personally feel any guilt for those things though.
THAT isn't what lefties do. LOL. They've progressed WELL beyond that. Now, they're in a perpetual state of proving to minorities they care more than the next white guy.
THAT is virtue signaling motived by one thing........guilt. The need to ensure the aggrieved knows how good they are.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:55 am to buckeye_vol
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Besides, if it's just "virtue signaling" to give off an appearance, then it's hard to say it has any real basis in guilt if people aren't doing anything about it.
Well, they DO do something about it.
Go try and articulate an opinion counter to their virtue signaling and see how quickly they descend upon you trying to get you fired, or prevent you from speaking etc etc etc.
They aren't just harmless idiots in their basements.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:05 am to SidewalkDawg
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This doesn't mesh with my experience of reality.
I've travelled all over the world and I've never seen more intolerant people than in major cities. They don't like strangers and are distrusting.
Quite the opposite in small towns. Most small town people are wary of outsiders, but they make an effort to accept them.
Yeah, the LGBT crowd is fleeing America's urban areas and being taken in by small towns.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:28 am to ShortyRob
quote:Well I don't associate with these people when I said I knew a lot of white liberals.
Go try and articulate an opinion counter to their virtue signaling and see how quickly they descend upon you trying to get you fired, or prevent you from speaking etc etc etc.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:28 am to cahoots
The difference isnt as much as people think either
In these cities where "it is only liberals," the truth is, it is likely a 60/40 split. So 6 people you meet out of 10 is liberal, and 4 is conservative. That isnt shite you actually notice on a day to day basis......
In these cities where "it is only liberals," the truth is, it is likely a 60/40 split. So 6 people you meet out of 10 is liberal, and 4 is conservative. That isnt shite you actually notice on a day to day basis......
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:30 am to SidewalkDawg
In cities, most work is intillectual vs hands on. His breeds a profoundly different type of person
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:32 am to Salmon
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It's not "urban America makes people liberal", its more certain people enjoy living the urban lifestyle, and those people tend to lean more liberal.
The question is, "Why?". I think that people in the urban areas rely heavily on government in their everyday lives, and see the government as the grease that keeps the engine running. In a big city, if the trains don't run on time, the garbage doesn't get collected, and the electricity doesn't stay on, they are in a world of hurt. They also rely on the government to set and enforce the rules of society and protect the populace. They put a lot of trust in the government to take care of these things, so it's only natural that they view the government differently than rural people. In urban areas, people are more anonymous, and don't know the people they interact with on a daily basis (I'm thinking of the scene in "Crocodile Dundee" where Mick is walking down the street in NYC and is trying to say "G'day" to everyone he passes by.
Rural people tend to be more reliant on each other (neighbors and friends), and less on the government. The role of government is different and smaller and less important role in peoples lives.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:33 am to Strannix
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Poor and uneducated who depend on handouts
you realize the rate of welfare is higher in non urban areas, don't you?
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Blacks (64%) are more likely than whites (56%) or Hispanics (50%) to have gotten federal help from these programs, and rural residents (62%) are more likely than urban (54%) or suburban (53%) dwellers to have gotten help.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:36 am to Hawkeye95
quote:No, I dont think they realize that. They have this uopian view of all rural people being hardnosed workers who dont take no handouts from nobody, and city folk being leaches......
you realize the rate of welfare is higher in non urban areas, don't you?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:37 am to lsupride87
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In these cities where "it is only liberals," the truth is, it is likely a 60/40 split. So 6 people you meet out of 10 is liberal, and 4 is conservative. That isnt shite you actually notice on a day to day basis......
Hillary vote
Washington DC 90%
San Francisco 84%
Portland 80%
Los Angeles 74%
Need i go on?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:39 am to ShortyRob
quote:Sure, you listed the most extremes, and stopped right before they were going to get to the 60% range like I said
Hillary vote
Washington DC 90%
San Francisco 84%
Portland 80%
Los Angeles 74%
Need i go on?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:44 am to buckeye_vol
Yeah, Collin county is never going to be bigger than Dallas county.. which is currently 2.5 MM and growing itself.
Don't care what the "if pace continues" article says.
Don't care what the "if pace continues" article says.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:47 am to lsupride87
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They have this uopian view of all rural people being hardnosed workers who dont take no handouts from nobody, and city folk being leaches......
my hometown is very rural and as white bread as they come. I graduated with less than 5% blacks. Every time I go back to visit I see nothing but poverty and no jobs.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:51 am to lsupride87
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Sure, you listed the most extremes, and stopped right before they were going to get to the 60% range like I said
I listed the first 4 i checked.
You said cities. So i checked cities. But ok.
Chicago 83%
Seattle 87%
Detroit 95%
Philadelphia 82%
Dane county WI 72%
Again, the first ones i checked. Should i go on?
It's going to take a while to run out of non 6/4 split cities
ROFLMAO
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