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re: Carnage On Cops A Product of Obama Presidency

Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:21 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:21 am to
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50 years from now, when all those that experienced Jim Crow are gone, people will still be invoking that mantra because it has been burned into their brains as something that they say still exists today.
Perhaps. Ditto for Black Liberation Theology?
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:22 am to
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Not sure what you don't understand about the realities of Jim Crow.


I understand that most of the "realities" you speak of were exaggerated or outright falsehoods.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:22 am to
Huh?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:23 am to
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Huh?
Same question you ask only pertaining to BLT and not Jim Crow. The entirety of my commentary has been at the guy who blamed his neighbor's offensive stance on BLT.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:25 am to
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He rarely took sides.
He never should have taken sides. He was (almost) always wrong.

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without attacking police


"the Cambridge police acted stupidly"

"What we saw was that the Ferguson Police Department in conjunction with the municipality saw traffic stops, arrests, tickets as a revenue generator, as opposed to serving the community, and that it systematically was biased against African-Americans in that city who were stopped, harassed, mistreated, abused, called names, fined."


"I want to begin by expressing my condolences for the families of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. As I said in the statement that I posted on Facebook, we have seen tragedies like this too many times.

The Justice Department, I know, has opened a civil rights investigation in Baton Rouge. The governor of Minnesota, I understand, is calling for an investigation there as well.

As is my practice, given my institutional role, I can't comment on the specific facts of each case. And I have confidence (AUDIO GAP).

But what I can say is that all of us as Americans should be troubled by the news. These are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of a broader set of racial disparities that exist in our criminal justice system."


Blamed the cops without having all the fact in all 4 cases. Really only significant police misconduct (IMHO) in the Castile case. Really blamed "all" cops with the "these are not isolated incidents" -
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:27 am to
The specific context of my post about Black Liberation Theology had to do with my neighbors justification for the execution style murder of a black female police officer by a black male. My neighbor is a retired preacher who preached this type of theology as his profession. He has some very unusual views of the relationship between the black community and police. He justifies violence, even to the extent of executions against anybody in a police uniform.

Sadly, I don't think this attitude is isolated to just him. I think it is quite common, thanks to the politics of former President Barack Obama.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:30 am to
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I don't know if I would feel "remorse" for defending myself against a violent thug....would you?

What are you basing those other claims on? The domestic can be established by police reports, and everyone knows that an angry spouse or girlfriend would never skew the circumstance of any event.



You say you wouldn't feel remorse.. and I get that.. I say something similar. Reality is that even if it's self defense remorse is typically present. Doesn't mean I would regret it.

And the dudes criminal record speaks for itself. Id look past it if it wasn't present before he shot Trayvon Martin.. but he had several encounters with the police prior to that
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:30 am to
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The specific context of my post about Black Liberation Theology had to do with my neighbors justification for the execution style murder of a black female police officer by a black male. My neighbor is a retired preacher who preached this type of theology as his profession. He has some very unusual views of the relationship between the black community and police. He justifies violence, even to the extent of executions against anybody in a police uniform.
Understood. And my response to that is it seems likely that it wasn't completely random that he fell into this - I'm guessing the previous decades of languishing under Jim Crow contributed, at least in part.
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Sadly, I don't think this attitude is isolated to just him. I think it is quite common, thanks to the politics of former President Barack Obama.
Obama is to blame for elderly guys having outlying opinions re literal police executions? Thanks, Obama!
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10914 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:47 pm to
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He rarely took sides.


Nothing you say after this means anything. This proves you're a liberal bootlicker and are well trained at ignoring everything that doesn't fit the agenda.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:14 pm to
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I understand that most of the "realities" you speak of were exaggerated or outright falsehoods.





The frick? Wait are you really saying what you seem to be- that the state-sponsored and state-abetted terrorism of Jim Crow wasn't that bad?
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:17 pm to
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The frick? Wait are you really saying what you seem to be- that the state-sponsored and state-abetted terrorism of Jim Crow wasn't that bad?


Use em dashes when emphasizing subordinate clauses . . . it helps me wade through your flaming wicker man of a statement.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11393 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
He may not have caused it but he damn sure didn't try to tamp down the tensions
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:34 pm to
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SMDH

Cops have been killing blacks and over policing the communities for over a century now. It has been brought to the forefront now due to it being caught on camera more.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically.




Yeah he was a leader before his blackness
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Cops have been killing blacks


no they haven't

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over policing the communities for over a century now


they have to when crime is so much more prevalent in those areas than other places

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It has been brought to the forefront now due to it being caught on camera more.


What has? . . . non-compliant, combative thugs and false narratives?
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:45 pm to
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The specific context of my post about Black Liberation Theology had to do with my neighbors justification for the execution style murder of a black female police officer by a black male. My neighbor is a retired preacher who preached this type of theology as his profession. He has some very unusual views of the relationship between the black community and police. He justifies violence, even to the extent of executions against anybody in a police uniform.

Sadly, I don't think this attitude is isolated to just him. I think it is quite common, thanks to the politics of former President Barack Obama.
Dude, obviously Obama had nothing to due with the way he felt. I'm sure it was his life experience. You know life experience, the reason you all say that whites have prejudices towards blacks. So through life experiences it has only made some people have an inherent biased. I've held a healthy disdain for certain police well before Obama came on the scene.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:48 pm to
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no they haven't


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they have to when crime is so much more prevalent in those areas than other places

Alot of that is attributed to the war on drugs that was designed just to do that.

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What has? . . . non-compliant, combative thugs and false narratives?
No, trigger happy, racist, bigoted cops and those you back them to no end.
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:53 pm to
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MontyFranklyn


Did drugs make up these statistics?

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:55 pm to
No, but pumping drugs and guns into black communities definitely helped.
Posted by PoundFoolish
East Texas
Member since Jul 2016
3724 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:56 pm to
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No, but pumping drugs and guns into black communities definitely helped.


What is it about your kind that is so allergic to personal accountability? I'll never figure that one out.
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