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re: Carnage On Cops A Product of Obama Presidency
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:37 am to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:37 am to MontyFranklyn
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And in all of those cases they received far harsher punishment than whites that committed the same crimes.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:45 am to CorporateTiger
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People who get themselves in these situations aren't thinking clearly in the first place.
Fair point
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No one wins a shootout with the cops, military vehicles or not.
True but I want the cops to survive and protect the rest of us
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:45 am to Lutcher Lad
Trump is under an FBI investigation.....
"Obama hates cops"
The deflection is at a high level.
OP. You do know there are stats that we track to show how many cops are killed annually .
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:50 am to MontyFranklyn
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And in all of those cases they received far harsher punishment than whites that committed the same crimes.
bullshite.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:55 am to Lutcher Lad
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His meddling into several high profile incidents involving killings of young men of color by cops set the tone for what we see all too often
Civil asset forfeiture, the war on drugs, the absolute resistance to public servants being filmed doing their jobs...
All things brought on by politicians that LEO took hook line and sinker. My problem is that LEO have become a political entity in and of themselves, far from what our founders envisioned I think.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:58 am to roadGator
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They also talk about how little respect they are shown in every day situations and 4 of the 5 are salt of the earth type of people. One was a hot head but has nothing in his file and has never fired his service weapon to my knowledge.
Here's a simple solution- tell their lobbying groups to lay off the sauce and
1)End the war on drugs
2)End their addiction to drug money
3)Stop using citizens as personal ATM's they can check out money as they wish
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:00 am to Dale51
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Bull shite.
We just recently saw a black athlete get 10 years in prison for rape and a white kid from Stanford get 3 monthsPosted on 3/21/17 at 9:03 am to MontyFranklyn
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We just recently saw a black athlete get 10 years in prison for rape and a white kid from Stanford get 3 months
compelling counterclaim, totally proves your previous point
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:06 am to MontyFranklyn
Why are you laughing? It's laughable to make a claim that you can't back up.
It's you that used the word ALL. All is an absolute. So you are claiming that every time a black person gets a harsher punishment that a white person when you clearly can't support that assertion with facts.
You let your emotions get to you.
It's you that used the word ALL. All is an absolute. So you are claiming that every time a black person gets a harsher punishment that a white person when you clearly can't support that assertion with facts.
You let your emotions get to you.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:07 am to PoundFoolish
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:09 am to MontyFranklyn
Your link never said all cases as you did. Try again, snow flake.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:15 am to roadGator
quote:I'm sorry, just the majority of them. At least a few of them got fair sentencing, right?
Your link never said all cases as you did. Try again, snow flake.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:17 am to MontyFranklyn
Apology accepted after you edit your incorrect post. 
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:17 am to MontyFranklyn
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All of that stems from the war on drugs.
Partially agree - a good bit of it stems from the war on drugs - black communities were targeted very early (by wholesalers and distributers of all shades) as potentially lucrative drug markets and have been ever since. There is a good bit of violence associated with the drug trade. This brings police attention, which increases the likelihood of negative police-citizen interaction.
It has also - and I hate this word - "infested" swaths of the community with this sense of lawlessness, hopelessness and that criminality is just normal. This is partially a residual effect of segregation/Jim Crow (lowered expectations) and partially an outgrowth of poverty. That doesn't excuse everything, though - poor people in Japan, for example, are not associated with significantly higher rates of crime, particularly violent crime.
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The black community has always been over policed due the the war on drugs.
Well - only half-joking - I've recommended a pull back of policing from the community and just see how long it takes for the leadership to show up at the police station and city hall to DEMAND more police. While it would be poetic justice, it is precisely those decent, law-abiding folks who remain stuck in those urban shitholes (100% Democrat-run and, in many places black Democrat-run) who would suffer the most from this policy shift.
So, I'm in agreement with you on the broader point - declare Peace with Honor in the War on Drugs(tm) - and go from there. But, then zero tolerance for violence - we would definitely have enough law enforcement and correctional capacity to do that.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:18 am to roadGator
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Apology accepted after you edit your incorrect post.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:21 am to MontyFranklyn
I didn't think you would admit to your emotionally driven, drama laden foot stomping. All good.
With that said, I think unfair sentencing is "unfair".
Why isn't it corrected though? We've had years and years of data to review. What's the hold up? I honestly don't know the answer.
You rapist example is sickening. But I think that's due to wealthiness over whiteness.
A poor kid from Appalachia is unlikely to get the same light sentence.
With that said, I think unfair sentencing is "unfair".
Why isn't it corrected though? We've had years and years of data to review. What's the hold up? I honestly don't know the answer.
You rapist example is sickening. But I think that's due to wealthiness over whiteness.
A poor kid from Appalachia is unlikely to get the same light sentence.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:22 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:21 am to Ace Midnight
quote:You already explained why in the first part. Japan doesn't have the drug problem that plagues the black community.
Partially agree - a good bit of it stems from the war on drugs - black communities were targeted very early (by wholesalers and distributers of all shades) as potentially lucrative drug markets and have been ever since. There is a good bit of violence associated with the drug trade. This brings police attention, which increases the likelihood of negative police-citizen interaction.
It has also - and I hate this word - "infested" swaths of the community with this sense of lawlessness, hopelessness and that criminality is just normal. This is partially a residual effect of segregation/Jim Crow (lowered expectations) and partially an outgrowth of poverty. That doesn't excuse everything, though - poor people in Japan, for example, are not associated with significantly higher rates of crime, particularly violent crime.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:25 am to MontyFranklyn
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You already explained why in the first part. Japan doesn't have the drug problem that plagues the black community.
It doesn't have the violent criminals the black community has either.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:29 am to roadGator
quote:Just pointing out the facts.
I didn't think you would admit to your emotionally driven, drama laden foot stomping. All good.
quote:Because it allows systemic racism. Not everyone wants to be subjected to the same rules as others that they deem to be of a lesser class. So therefore we allow judges to be "objective" in handing out punishments as they seem fit, but they are truly subjective in there personal beliefs and duty as it is deemed by those that have put them in power. It is simple economics really.
Why isn't it corrected though? We've had years and years of data to review. What's the hold up?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 9:32 am to MontyFranklyn
i'll put some of the blame on the people who think cops are infallible and stand behind them no matter what they do, even in the obviously wrong instances.
heck, take a look at the OT, there were some who backed the blue after a cop shot a guy holding registration papers at the scene of an accident.
heck, take a look at the OT, there were some who backed the blue after a cop shot a guy holding registration papers at the scene of an accident.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 9:41 am
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