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re: Carnage On Cops A Product of Obama Presidency
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:00 am to skiptumahloo
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:00 am to skiptumahloo
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The increase in tensions has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with the rise of smartphones so that now these incidents are being caught on tape.
Yeah....no.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:01 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically.
WTF?!
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:02 am to CorporateTiger
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So you agree some amount of people who back cops are doing it for racial reasons? We agree on this?
Sure just like there are racists that back criminals and racists that claim a cop involved shooting was bad.
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So we agree on this
Sure.....anything that makes something 'idiot proof' I'm good with.
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but how often are police in small to midsize localities rolling out military equipment they are spending our money on?
Think about this for a minute....if you're a perp and the cops are called about a situation that you're involved with and they bring out the tanks (I'm being sarcastic here); wouldn't you (as the perp) realize your situation was dire and you were completely out-gunned and give yourself up, thus avoiding a shootout?
Also the money they're spending on 'militarized' equipment is pennies on the dollar bc they're getting this stuff from the military who are getting rid of it......who else should get it?
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Glad we also agree on DV.
Not just DV and it's not just the cops.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:02 am to MoarKilometers
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I've seen rodney king, virtually no penalty... I've seen the b.a r.t. shooting, again almost no penalty. I've seen remnants of cops shooting up bachelor parties over a fender bender. 137 rounds in a car over a backfire... 12 year old taken out in under 5 seconds. They happen under all presidents, outside of the group committing said acts, the one constant... lack of accountability and punishment.
I'm gonna guess..ummm...about 75% bullshite. Rodney King?? seriously?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:06 am to bmy
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Comply or die right? Cops are regulators just like the EPA guys you douches hate. They just regulate poors and blacks so you guys s like them Regulators with guns
You're going to need a lot of therapy.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:10 am to Lutcher Lad
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:10 am to AustinTigr
I'm hoping his statement was a troll. No one can possibly believe that siding with the career criminals and sending in his racist AG (pick one) was diplomatic OR intelligent.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:12 am to Lutcher Lad
From what I've read, violence against cops has remained relatively flat over the last 10-20 years. Since 1970 it has actually been cut in half, though most of that is attributed to the increased use of body armor by police.
There was a sharp increase in the first half of 2016, but I think that leveled out the last half of the year.
All that to say, there hasn't been this massive carnage on cops under Obama's tenure, as your post claims.
There was a sharp increase in the first half of 2016, but I think that leveled out the last half of the year.
All that to say, there hasn't been this massive carnage on cops under Obama's tenure, as your post claims.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:12 am to Wtodd
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Sure just like there are racists that back criminals and racists that claim a cop involved shooting was bad.
Agreed. The drawing of racial battle lines needs to stop.
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Think about this for a minute....if you're a perp and the cops are called about a situation that you're involved with and they bring out the tanks (I'm being sarcastic here); wouldn't you (as the perp) realize your situation was dire and you were completely out-gunned and give yourself up, thus avoiding a shootout
People who get themselves in these situations aren't thinking clearly in the first place. No one wins a shootout with the cops, military vehicles or not.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:18 am to The Spleen
I have no less than 5 fraternity brothers that are cops still I think. 1 may have retired to do other things.
Anyway, the active ones don't talk about increase violence toward cops. They talk about the actual increase in the number of ambushes. They don't mind a fire fight per se. It's the ambushes that concern them.
So while the number of cops killed in the line of duty may be flat the circumstances around some of those deaths is their concern.
They also talk about how little respect they are shown in every day situations and 4 of the 5 are salt of the earth type of people. One was a hot head but has nothing in his file and has never fired his service weapon to my knowledge.
I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop these days.
Anyway, the active ones don't talk about increase violence toward cops. They talk about the actual increase in the number of ambushes. They don't mind a fire fight per se. It's the ambushes that concern them.
So while the number of cops killed in the line of duty may be flat the circumstances around some of those deaths is their concern.
They also talk about how little respect they are shown in every day situations and 4 of the 5 are salt of the earth type of people. One was a hot head but has nothing in his file and has never fired his service weapon to my knowledge.
I don't know why anyone would want to be a cop these days.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
The first responder is rigrb and I'm
Moderate.
Moderate.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:24 am to PoundFoolish
quote:All of that stems from the war on drugs. The black community has always been over policed due the the war on drugs. That failed policy created situations of unneeded interactions between blacks and cops.
The only "lack of data" is the kind that looks bad for his side, really bad. And by that I mean the fact that blacks are profiled more because they commit more crimes and, yes, are engaged more by police because they are non-compliant and more prone to violence AGAINST LEOs during confrontations.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:26 am to roadGator
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They also talk about how little respect they are shown in every day situations
This is a huge problem in policing these days, and the lack of respect cuts both ways in some communities. It's hard to break the cycle when both feel it's the other side being disrespectful.
As someone else said many posts ago, the prevalence of smartphones with video cameras on them hasn't really helped that tension.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:28 am to The Spleen
Right, I'm talking about 4 specific cops are who good men, treat people kindly (always have), give time to charities, work hard, do the right thing, etc.
I'm not talking about some roided out, frustrated cops who just want to show some little old lady who is the boss.
I wasn't speaking about generalities.
I'm not talking about some roided out, frustrated cops who just want to show some little old lady who is the boss.
I wasn't speaking about generalities.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:29 am to MontyFranklyn
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All of that stems from the war on drugs. The black community has always been over policed due the the war on drugs. That failed policy created situations of unneeded interactions between blacks and cops.
Wrong . . .
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:33 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:35 am to PoundFoolish
And in all of those cases they received far harsher punishment than whites that committed the same crimes.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:35 am to MontyFranklyn
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And in all of those cases they received far harsher punishment t
No.
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