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Carnage On Cops A Product of Obama Presidency
Posted on 3/21/17 at 3:58 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 3:58 am
It's a shame to say but I feel that the hatred toward our men and women in blue is a product born of Obama's presidency. His meddling into several high profile incidents involving killings of young men of color by cops set the tone for what we see all too often today.
He called out the cops beginning with the professor trying to break into his own home and continually sided against the cops in most incidents. It was always about cops should be reformed and re-trained...but never state the obvious, respect for the law and those that wear the badge.
Obama gave us the gift that will keep on giving us bad results.
He called out the cops beginning with the professor trying to break into his own home and continually sided against the cops in most incidents. It was always about cops should be reformed and re-trained...but never state the obvious, respect for the law and those that wear the badge.
Obama gave us the gift that will keep on giving us bad results.
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:51 am to Lutcher Lad
The increase in tensions has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with the rise of smartphones so that now these incidents are being caught on tape.
Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically. You just want a president that would come out and say that police are above reproach and that shootings aren't a problem, but you're wrong, they are a problem. I'm dreading the day Trump has to respond to a situation like this, because he is not capable of the tact and grace that Obama showed, and he will certainly make the situation worse. Obama's diplomacy helped ease tensions.
Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically. You just want a president that would come out and say that police are above reproach and that shootings aren't a problem, but you're wrong, they are a problem. I'm dreading the day Trump has to respond to a situation like this, because he is not capable of the tact and grace that Obama showed, and he will certainly make the situation worse. Obama's diplomacy helped ease tensions.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:57 am to skiptumahloo
Both the OP and the first responder are a perfect representation of the blind partisanship that has infested this board and the US as a whole.
Maybe, just maybe, some of the blame can be apportioned to both Obama and shitty cops.
Maybe, just maybe, some of the blame can be apportioned to both Obama and shitty cops.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:15 am to TN Bhoy
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Both the OP and the first responder are a perfect representation of the blind partisanship that has infested this board and the US as a whole.
It's amazing how far off the deep end people gave gone.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:21 am to TN Bhoy
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Both the OP and the first responder are a perfect representation of the blind partisanship that has infested this board and the US as a whole.
Maybe, just maybe, some of the blame can be apportioned to both Obama and shitty cops.
Obama is far from perfect, but it's silly to try to blame this on him at all. He's the first black president, and so conservatives are just automatically blaming him for any and all racial tensions that occurred during his presidency. It's not his fault smartphones became ubiquitous over the last 8 years.
There are a lot more variables at play than just "Obama" and "shitty cops". You're trying to act like the only one who sees the middle ground, but you're oversimplifying things nearly as much as OP.
For one thing, we only see these videos when things go badly, and there aren't good statistics available on police shootings. The police have enough shite to deal with without having to be software engineers developing a national database of civilians injured by officers. Police unions and conservative politicians pretending like the problem doesn't exist are part of the problem. But liberal politicians that have exploited the issue emotionally without pushing for real data driven analyses of the issue complicate things as well. But Obama is really not one of them. He was always very reserved in his reactions to these events, and he actually did speak about the problems of lack of data at least more than most.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 5:23 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:25 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama is far from perfect, but it's silly to try to blame this on him at all
Probably should have drawn a line with the Michael Brown foolishness instead of pander. He shares in the blame. He never showed leadership skills and it turned ugly.
It's not totally on him but he bungled the whole situation going forward
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:26 am to Lutcher Lad
I've seen rodney king, virtually no penalty... I've seen the b.a r.t. shooting, again almost no penalty. I've seen remnants of cops shooting up bachelor parties over a fender bender. 137 rounds in a car over a backfire... 12 year old taken out in under 5 seconds. They happen under all presidents, outside of the group committing said acts, the one constant... lack of accountability and punishment.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:32 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama is far from perfect, but it's silly to try to blame this on him at all.
Good lord.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:34 am to skiptumahloo
Oh, bull shite
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably should have drawn a line with the Michael Brown foolishness instead of pander. He shares in the blame. He never showed leadership skills and it turned ugly.
It's not totally on him but he bungled the whole situation going forward
Truth.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:54 am to skiptumahloo
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The increase in tensions has nothing to do with Obama
bullshite. It has everything to do with the way he handled these situations.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:02 am to Lutcher Lad
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Obama gave us the gift that will keep on giving us bad results
He gave so many of these gifts, it will take years before this country can rid itself of the stinch
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 7:24 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:15 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically.
He was always wrong on these. He spoke when he shouldn't have. He didn't speak (or said the wrong things) when he could have made it better - in other words he actually did what you expect Trump to do.
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tact and grace that Obama showed
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:18 am to TN Bhoy
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Maybe, just maybe, some of the blame can be apportioned to both a shitty Obama and bad cops
FIFY
Anyone that's been on this board for more than 15 minutes KNOWS that this board calls out bad cops all the time........but you knew that.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:27 am to skiptumahloo
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He was always very reserved in his reactions to these events, and he actually did speak about the problems of lack of data at least more than most.
Are you fricking retarded? He set his claws firmly into the mess the second any hint of racialized disparity might've at all existed--both verbally and through his actions.
The "lack of data" is merely that the evidence looks bad for his side, really bad. And by that I mean the fact that blacks are profiled more because they commit more crimes and, yes, are engaged more by police because they are non-compliant and more prone to violence AGAINST LEOs during confrontations.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:29 am to Wtodd
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Anyone that's been on this board for more than 15 minutes KNOWS that this board calls out bad cops all the time........but you knew that.
This is the part that cracks me up.
I remember a thread years ago where folks like me, who supposedly full of white privilege, shared our stories of brutally shitty encounters with cops that went bad. Hell, that's nothing compared to what several of my closest friends in college experienced as well. Cops suck for the most part.
What you had was the perfect combo of an over aggressive, over-militarized police force with a POTUS that was willing to latch onto to the worst false narratives in order to try and "address" this. Problem was, he and his ilk in the MSM really went overboard and then demonized whites somehow in all of it when the annual stats proved what Obama and company were lying about when they stated more black men are killed, etc.
So, once again, a perfectly reasonable discussion that needs to be had can't, because of people like Obama using it for political gain. Only problem is, Obama's side loves them some violence, so they groups he sponsored at the WH called for dead cops, got more cops killed, and BAM, it all came full circle. We are still having the same problems, but now they are on another level bc police all across the US now feel threatened. Ugh.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:33 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically. You just want a president that would come out and say that police are above reproach
Oh bullshite -
this board is being ruined by these new posters
:banghead:Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably should have drawn a line with the Michael Brown foolishness instead of pander. He shares in the blame. He never showed leadership skills and it turned ugly.
It's not totally on him but he bungled the whole situation going forward
This is the correct answer ^
Obama did nothing but exacerbate the racial divide in the country. He cannot be blamed for its existence, but he did absolutely nothing to decrease it and a lot to exacerbate it.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:37 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama handled the situations intelligently and diplomatically. You just want a president that would come out and say that police are above reproach and that shootings aren't a problem, but you're wrong, they are a problem. I'm dreading the day Trump has to respond to a situation like this, because he is not capable of the tact and grace that Obama showed, and he will certainly make the situation worse. Obama's diplomacy helped ease tensions.
I try to be level headed and see things from both sides but this has to be a troll post right? Right? Please tell me it's a troll.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:37 am to skiptumahloo
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Obama is far from perfect, but it's silly to try to blame this on him at all. He's the first black president, and so conservatives are just automatically blaming him for any and all racial tensions that occurred during his presidency. It's not his fault smartphones became ubiquitous over the last 8 years.
How about going down the road of false narratives?
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