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Last Week Tonight With John Oliver hammered the NCAA
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:29 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 2:29 am
It's 21 minutes long but it's a good one, especially if you think collegiate athletes should be compensated.
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This post was edited on 3/16/15 at 2:30 am
Posted on 3/16/15 at 6:05 am to RollTide1987
I watched it last night.
I honestly have not paid a whole lot attention to all the stuff going on, but it was pretty good. Definitely gives me a new perspective, especially after watching some of the stuff the NCAA cracks down on and lets go.
However, the UConn kid still makes me roll my eyes. If he goes to bed hungry, it's probably his fault.
I honestly have not paid a whole lot attention to all the stuff going on, but it was pretty good. Definitely gives me a new perspective, especially after watching some of the stuff the NCAA cracks down on and lets go.
However, the UConn kid still makes me roll my eyes. If he goes to bed hungry, it's probably his fault.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 6:59 am to RollTide1987
Pretty funny bit with some good points. I really don't know where I stand on the whole issue. An argument can be made for both sides in my opinion. I don't know enough about it to form an opinion.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:18 am to JumpingTheShark
I don't see why they don't just let college athletes profit from endorsements if they're able.
The really good players would make money, and you wouldn't have to play the diving team athletes based off the football teams success.
Capitalism
The really good players would make money, and you wouldn't have to play the diving team athletes based off the football teams success.
Capitalism
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:34 am to RollTide1987
College athletes should be compensated solely so they can make NCAA football and basketball games again and for no other reason
Posted on 3/16/15 at 7:46 am to JumpingTheShark
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I really don't know where I stand on the whole issue. An argument can be made for both sides in my opinion. I don't know enough about it to form an opinion.
I use to feel this way, but I find myself leaning more toward the athletes now.
Mostly because their jerseys are sold, the autographs are sold, their likeness is used in games, but they are not allowed to receive a single dollar.
That is kind of bullshite.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:03 am to bigpetedatiga
it's hilarious that one example was a kid who got a discount for a ballroom for his 21st birthday party
who on here had enough money to fund a 21st birthday party so large that it required a ball room?
i've said for going on 10 years now they should ease up the endorsement restrictions, because that is the ONLY way you can deal with this issue without killing all the minor sports. almost every athletic department already loses money, and once you pay males, you have to pay females due to title 9. that is going to destroy tons of sports because it just isn't financially viable.
you can cherry pick a few SJWs and disgruntled former players to talk about how horrible things are. however in these segments, you never see people on swimming scholarships get to talk about how thankful they are to get an educational opportunity. you start paying players and they're done.
or you can create a "super conference" where players can be paid...which would destroy sports in the other conferences because the march madness money would go to the super conference (with maybe a little dribbling down to the small conferences).
these segments/stories are pretty much always ignorant to how CFB works, too. they don't differentiate between what the university pays and what private donar organizations (like LSU's TAF).
who on here had enough money to fund a 21st birthday party so large that it required a ball room?
i've said for going on 10 years now they should ease up the endorsement restrictions, because that is the ONLY way you can deal with this issue without killing all the minor sports. almost every athletic department already loses money, and once you pay males, you have to pay females due to title 9. that is going to destroy tons of sports because it just isn't financially viable.
you can cherry pick a few SJWs and disgruntled former players to talk about how horrible things are. however in these segments, you never see people on swimming scholarships get to talk about how thankful they are to get an educational opportunity. you start paying players and they're done.
or you can create a "super conference" where players can be paid...which would destroy sports in the other conferences because the march madness money would go to the super conference (with maybe a little dribbling down to the small conferences).
these segments/stories are pretty much always ignorant to how CFB works, too. they don't differentiate between what the university pays and what private donar organizations (like LSU's TAF).
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:11 am to RollTide1987
Clemson fans are in quite the tizzy this morning since Dabo was featured in that segment.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
The fake video game commercial at the end was comedy gold.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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who on here had enough money to fund a 21st birthday party so large that it required a ball room?
Maybe his family threw it for him? Does it really matter?
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you can cherry pick a few SJWs and disgruntled former players to talk about how horrible things are. however in these segments, you never see people on swimming scholarships get to talk about how thankful they are to get an educational opportunity. you start paying players and they're done.
Well if people were buying swimmer worn speedo's...
I have no interest in arguing with you, because I know you enjoy being contrariety, but the NCAA is a billion dollar industry, lets not act like they are struggling to stay a float.
Stop selling the kids jerseys, making them sign autographs, and using their likeness in games.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Also, how do you defend a player getting hurt while participating in team activities, losing his scholarship, and being forced to pay their own medical bills while being kicked out of the school?
There are many examples of that.
In Louisiana of all places, you are required to keep insurance on your athletes.
There are many examples of that.
In Louisiana of all places, you are required to keep insurance on your athletes.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:31 am to bigpetedatiga
They don't lose scholarships
They are yearly things. If hurt sure they aren't "athletic" but they never get it pulled.
People are dumb when it comes to athletics scholarships.
They are yearly things. If hurt sure they aren't "athletic" but they never get it pulled.
People are dumb when it comes to athletics scholarships.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:33 am to sms151t
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They are yearly things. If hurt sure they aren't "athletic" but they never get it pulled.
People are dumb when it comes to athletics scholarships.
So this is where you draw your line in the sand?
Terminology that is pretty interchangeable?
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:37 am to bigpetedatiga
The school still pays for their education unless the person refuses to uphold his end of bargain such as being Student Asst.
But I have never seen a scholarship pulled for injury only.
But I have never seen a scholarship pulled for injury only.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:39 am to Tiger1242
quote:
The really good players would make money, and you wouldn't have to play the diving team athletes based off the football teams success.
Capitalism
This is where I stand (kinda) Schools use sports like swimming/diving and Title 9 as an excuse not to pay football and basketball players by saying these sports fund their entire athletic departments.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 8:55 am to bigpetedatiga
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he NCAA is a billion dollar industry, lets not act like they are struggling to stay a float.
Yup. Do we really think that coaches should be making $3M a year, yet the players are amateurs? Assistant coaches making well into 6 figures, but the players are amateurs? The thing about losing money is a ark.
The NCAA problem is they have two distinct member groups in CFB and MBB- one that is basically a pro training league, the other that somewhat resembles the student/athlete model they try to peddle. That they expect these groups to compete and play by the same rules is ludicrous.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:13 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
it's hilarious that one example was a kid who got a discount for a ballroom for his 21st birthday party
who on here had enough money to fund a 21st birthday party so large that it required a ball room?
i've said for going on 10 years now they should ease up the endorsement restrictions, because that is the ONLY way you can deal with this issue without killing all the minor sports. almost every athletic department already loses money, and once you pay males, you have to pay females due to title 9. that is going to destroy tons of sports because it just isn't financially viable.
you can cherry pick a few SJWs and disgruntled former players to talk about how horrible things are. however in these segments, you never see people on swimming scholarships get to talk about how thankful they are to get an educational opportunity. you start paying players and they're done.
or you can create a "super conference" where players can be paid...which would destroy sports in the other conferences because the march madness money would go to the super conference (with maybe a little dribbling down to the small conferences).
these segments/stories are pretty much always ignorant to how CFB works, too. they don't differentiate between what the university pays and what private donar organizations (like LSU's TAF).
Bingo.
To me, there are 2 real options outside of the above, which I think is probably the best:
1) Disassociate the NCAA from colleges completely. Colleges merely become sponsors and the teams, like clubs. Then, they can be run more like a business. You have to destroy the scholarship model for this though. But I'm ok with that. If it isn't about college then so be it.
2) If you don't want to do that, then every athlete gets a wage slightly above minimum wage. They are already getting often $30,000 - $70,000 on average in scholarship money when you throw in room and board, books, etc. Technically, they are already getting paid. But yes, this is their job, throw in a median wage for everyone according to city Cost of Living and you're good.
If you do anything outside of those two things, or the above, you'll be killing college athletics as a whole. Every sport, particularly in CBB and CFB, would become far less competitive. It might fix those pesky BCS problems because we'd never have to worry about a Boise State again.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:16 am to corndeaux
8 min. in. Funny guy but his points so far have been terrible and Shabazz Napier and Richard Sherman go gtfo with their bs.
Posted on 3/16/15 at 9:19 am to bigpetedatiga
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because their jerseys are sold, the autographs are sold, their likeness is used in games, but they are not allowed to receive a single dollar.
Other than the tens of thousands of dollars in free tuition, room and board, clothing and gifts?
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