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re: About to get into a fight with HOA over parking policy inside the community
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:44 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:44 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:54 pm to saintforlife1
Don't see how they can tow a vehicle from a public street based on who owns the vehicle. How do they make that determination? It's it's a city street, they have no authority to tow a vehicle and are just using a scare tactic.
If it is a private street, I guess they can, but then again how do they determine which are visitor vehicles and which are owner vehicles? Who will enforce it? I can't imagine many HOA reps willing to have a neighbor's car towed, but there are plenty of assholes in this world.
And as others have said, screw HOA's. Mine isn't as bad as they used to be before the housing crisis. When we first moved in, we were getting letters almost weekly over some minor BS. I think the guy that was in charge of enforcement died though, and the new guy is more chill.
If it is a private street, I guess they can, but then again how do they determine which are visitor vehicles and which are owner vehicles? Who will enforce it? I can't imagine many HOA reps willing to have a neighbor's car towed, but there are plenty of assholes in this world.
And as others have said, screw HOA's. Mine isn't as bad as they used to be before the housing crisis. When we first moved in, we were getting letters almost weekly over some minor BS. I think the guy that was in charge of enforcement died though, and the new guy is more chill.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:57 pm to Golfer
Golfer, sounds like you live in a pretty decent place.
HOAs seem to be more popular in areas that don't have a lot of active code enforcement. So, no, code enforcement isn't coming unless there is a health issue. Grass has to get real high before there is a health issue.
When we lived in Katy our house was in an HOA. Most of the board members were power hungry nutcases. Unfortunetly, we could never get enough people to the meetings to have an election, so they just never left office. That having been said, we had access to a very nice community pool and playground, and we had nice common areas and nice community events, which our HOA dues went for, and of the four letters I got in the 6 years I lived there, three of them I understood. The one in which I did not agree, I went and talked to the mgt company and we got it worked out.
Those of you who hate HOAs so much, do you also want to pay the absolute bare minimum in property taxes and don't want any nice amenities in your community? From my experience, those people seem one and the same.
HOAs seem to be more popular in areas that don't have a lot of active code enforcement. So, no, code enforcement isn't coming unless there is a health issue. Grass has to get real high before there is a health issue.
When we lived in Katy our house was in an HOA. Most of the board members were power hungry nutcases. Unfortunetly, we could never get enough people to the meetings to have an election, so they just never left office. That having been said, we had access to a very nice community pool and playground, and we had nice common areas and nice community events, which our HOA dues went for, and of the four letters I got in the 6 years I lived there, three of them I understood. The one in which I did not agree, I went and talked to the mgt company and we got it worked out.
Those of you who hate HOAs so much, do you also want to pay the absolute bare minimum in property taxes and don't want any nice amenities in your community? From my experience, those people seem one and the same.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
I want a HOA in the locations I live, seen too many nice places go bad because cruddy residents and no control. That said HOAs suck and it is picking between two devils
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:08 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Those of you who hate HOAs so much, do you also want to pay the absolute bare minimum in property taxes and don't want any nice amenities in your community? From my experience, those people seem one and the same.
I generally hate subdivisions, but like neighborhoods with strong community associations and would rather pay for what I want on my own (pools, gym, etc.)
I say all this as we are considering looking at plans for Harveston in BR
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:40 pm to Golfer
my HOA won't do much outside of sending people letters
there are a ton of unpaid dues but according to the HOA, the legal fees involved with putting liens on property outweigh the fees owed, so its not worth the battle
i'm ready to get out of this neighborhood anyway....it was just a starter home and we're about ready for something nicer
there are a ton of unpaid dues but according to the HOA, the legal fees involved with putting liens on property outweigh the fees owed, so its not worth the battle
i'm ready to get out of this neighborhood anyway....it was just a starter home and we're about ready for something nicer
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:43 pm to Croacka
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there are a ton of unpaid dues but according to the HOA, the legal fees involved with putting liens on property outweigh the fees owed, so its not worth the battle
In Texas, apparently you could add the fees to the amount owed, i.e. the lien. And if you didn't pay your dues for enough years, they could foreclose on the property. And the best thing was this, according to the attorney our HOA had: the lien was primary over the mortgage. So the HOA could not only force a foreclosure, but they got their money before the mortgage company did.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
In louisiana the more well written HOA's for condominiums have a clause in there where they can turn your water off. Talking to a guy that manages numerous HOAs that tactic is much more effective than liens.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 4:02 pm to LSUFanHouston
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And if you didn't pay your dues for enough years, they could foreclose on the property. And the best thing was this, according to the attorney our HOA had: the lien was primary over the mortgage. So the HOA could not only force a foreclosure, but they got their money before the mortgage company did.
that's why mortgage companies routinely want to look at HOA bylaws... to check their risk
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:47 pm to Golfer
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Here's a few examples from my non-HOA neighborhood. Guy that lives a few doors down from me had knee surgery and couldn't cut his grass for a few months. So myself and a few of the others around us took turns cutting his grass to keep it looking nice. We had a blight issue down the street and the City took care of that via code enforcement.
That is great that you and your neighbor mowed a fellow neighbors grass, seriously, but that doesn't explain how that prevents someone from painting their house lime green with yellow accents. There is rarely anything the city can do about that so if you get someone with bad taste or who is colorblind you have no recourse. I could list tons of other situations that are perfectly legal activities that will detract from a home's value so the city/parish can't do a thing about it.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:18 pm to MikeBRLA
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I could list tons of other situations that are perfectly legal activities that will detract from a home's value so the city/parish can't do a thing about it.
Meh. If it got to be that bad you could sue them. But amazingly 10 of the 14 houses in my block have been painted in the last 5 years and none of them are lime green.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:39 pm to MikeBRLA
If you are arguing that an HOA is a good idea because it regulates good and bad opinions of design then you sir are a communist.
A paint color choice is an opinion. I happen to like lime green.
A paint color choice is an opinion. I happen to like lime green.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:08 pm to bryso
I like my HOA because my parish code enforcement is toothless. No HOA in my last hood, and the corner lot two doors down was occupied by seriously trashy folks....they bought a couple of surplus fema trailers and put them in the backyard, connected to power and water. Parish didn't do squat.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 12:16 am to hungryone
I absolutely despise HOA's. But, I understand the need for them in some cases. The HOA at my condo in Kauai is actually pretty cool overall, but there are a couple nazis on the board. I have to work within the rules of all the HOA's here on Oahu for my job and there are some that I would literally like to blow up. The homeowners hate them as well.
There is middle ground. Some of the stupid fricking rules are not the same as being worried about "someone painting the house lime green". And the idea that these pricks will tow your car for parking in front of your own house with a car in working condition is BS. Or that they can conceivably put a lien on your house when they never paid a cent for your house drives me mad. frick all of them and especially the power hungry pricks that somehow seem to be the majority on the boards.
There is middle ground. Some of the stupid fricking rules are not the same as being worried about "someone painting the house lime green". And the idea that these pricks will tow your car for parking in front of your own house with a car in working condition is BS. Or that they can conceivably put a lien on your house when they never paid a cent for your house drives me mad. frick all of them and especially the power hungry pricks that somehow seem to be the majority on the boards.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 9:30 am to bryso
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If you are arguing that an HOA is a good idea because it regulates good and bad opinions of design then you sir are a communist. A paint color choice is an opinion. I happen to like lime green.
The funny thing about housing is this: If me and you are neighbors, what you do to the exterior of your home, can affect MY housing value, and what I can get if I decide to sell MY house.
You like lime green, paint every interior wall of your house lime green. But when your choices affect what I have, there is a problem.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:21 am to LSUFanHouston
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But when your choices affect what I have, there is a problem.
Welcome to life.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:31 am to Sho Nuff
i think many on here don't understand how liens work and how commonplace they are. if you get a $50 fine from your HOA for being a shitty homeonwner, pay it and you wont' be liened. if you don't like HOAs, don't move into neighborhood with one. if you like HOAs, but don't agree with its enforcement practices, get on the board and do something about it. HOA's are majority rule, like most things in life. everyone has a voice, but majority carries the day. the majority of people in a neighborhood don't want to live next to a home that is painted lime green with cars parked in the yard. that type of mess brings neighborhood home values down with a quickness. if you want a place where you can do that, move.
i hate nazi HOA's as much as the next guy, but i didn't move to a neighborhood where they are that strict. i like that my HOA is protecting the value of my property by enforcing some basic rules that benefit the neighborhood as a whole, and that some person who wants to paint his house lime green to prove a point can't drag my value down with his house.
as i said, you don't have to agree with the idea of an HOA in general. if you are that opposed to one, you can live somewhere without one. however, i would bet that many who hate the idea of an HOA are attracted to the very aspects of a neighborhood that HOAs tend to preserve.
i hate nazi HOA's as much as the next guy, but i didn't move to a neighborhood where they are that strict. i like that my HOA is protecting the value of my property by enforcing some basic rules that benefit the neighborhood as a whole, and that some person who wants to paint his house lime green to prove a point can't drag my value down with his house.
as i said, you don't have to agree with the idea of an HOA in general. if you are that opposed to one, you can live somewhere without one. however, i would bet that many who hate the idea of an HOA are attracted to the very aspects of a neighborhood that HOAs tend to preserve.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:03 am to lsujro
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if you don't like HOAs, don't move into neighborhood with one.
I wish I could say I'm surprised how many people spend a fortune on property and only after the sale closes do they take the time to find out about the HOA or other encumbrances on it, but I'm not.
why the heck do they think they are paying for a title search?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:14 am to lsujro
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however, i would bet that many who hate the idea of an HOA are attracted to the very aspects of a neighborhood that HOAs tend to preserve.
Such as every house looking the same and a garage for a front door?
As I said earlier, active community/neighborhood groups can do this.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 11:40 am to Golfer
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Such as every house looking the same and a garage for a front door?
As I said earlier, active community/neighborhood groups can do this.
none of the HOA's in my area require houses to look the same and have a garage in front. many houses have one in front for convenience and due to lot size. many houses have a similar look to them because the builders are often the same. but if you look to nicer neighborhoods, there is less similarity. and with the active community thing, this is just pretty much wrong. your own neighborhood being the exception, this is pretty rare. if i painted my house lime green in your neighborhood, you could not stop me. and if you filed suit, not only would you spend your own money (lots of it), you would likely lose. if you go cut your neighbors lawn, there are plenty of neighborhoods in LA where you would get confronted with a gun for trespassing. if you want to file a complaint with city, you would be heard. in about 3 months
an ideal HOA (admittedly not all of them) are exactly what you want - an active community. the only difference is they have teeth. and you will never have to worry about mowing someone else's yard or going to court. i pay like $12/mo for that to be taken care of for me. imo it's worth it.
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