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Rice field guys. Water well question
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:16 pm
Have a 40 acre impoundment wt a small electric well on it. The well just isn't cutting it. What is the max hp an electric well can go to and how hard/much is it to convert the well to gas/diesel? I have no clue about wells, gpm, hp, etc. There are also 3 other impoundments I would like to flood wt the same well. This is only for duck hunting.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:24 pm to 4mileduckman
You want a propane engine driven well on it. Much cheaper to run.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:30 pm to 4mileduckman
How many acres total are you trying to flood? Converting to a diesel/propane may not help much. Depends on how good of a well it is. Some wells just aren't that good. They will surge if they aren't in a good formation. I would try to find out how good of water is there before spending a lot of money on a "dry well".
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:33 pm to dayne o
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Depends on how good of a well it is. Some wells just aren't that good. They will surge if they aren't in a good formation. I would try to find out how good of water is there before spending a lot of money on a "dry well"
What he said.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:34 pm to 4mileduckman
Electric is definitely the way to go. Much cheaper/ can't help you on the specs
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:42 pm to 4mileduckman
quote:iirc I worked at a paper mill that had 200hp well pumps. Might've been bigger than that.
What is the max hp an electric well can go to
So electric goes as big as you can afford
Posted on 5/6/13 at 3:49 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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So electric goes as big as you can afford
But if the water is not there he is wasting money. Think of it as having a prop that doesn't have enough pitch to match the HP on a boat. You get over-rev at full throttle. This is sorta like a well that surges. When they surge, lower the rpms.You have all that HP but it doesn't matter if the water is not there.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:14 pm to dayne o
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When they surge, lower the rpms.You have all that HP but it doesn't matter if the water is not there.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:22 pm to 4mileduckman
They gotta electric pump at the camp. That bastard floods a section of land in 3 days. They make em big enough I promise. If "the" camp was "my" camp I'm sure I could tell you everything you would wanna know but it's not.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:32 pm to Choirboy
I have had wells installed that flow up to 3500 gpm. The design of the well determines how much flow you can get. Things like diameter, screen length and area, and aquifer tranmisivity dtermine well capacity, not pump HP. Chances are are your well is probably designed at its capacity. Increasing HP will probably just cavitate the pump and the added pressure drop will just cause precipitation and fouling accross the screen. You can't just up the pumping rate without increasing the capacity of the well itself. If you want a reliable water source at significantly higher volume you'll need a new well designed for this purpose.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:39 pm to Nawlens Gator
thanks fellas. looks like sectioning off smaller areas to flood is the way to go.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:01 pm to 4mileduckman
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4mileduckman
Where is this camp at? I live in lc.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:05 pm to 4mileduckman
also, try to laser level it or at least water level it if you can. if you dont have to pump deep on one end it helps a lot
Posted on 5/6/13 at 6:05 pm to 4mileduckman
It all depends on your well's drawdown, basically how fast the well "refills" while you are pumping. If you stick too large of a pump in there, you'll just burn it up. You could look at a solar powered pump that just constantly runs (when the sun's out) without running up your electricity bill.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:03 pm to 4mileduckman
You really need to have the well pump tested. Then you will know what size pump to get. Do you have 3 phase power or single phase?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:04 pm to 4mileduckman
We have a diesel well..wish we had electric..
Posted on 5/6/13 at 9:24 pm to Cadello
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We have a diesel well..wish we had electric..
Yea, if you have 3 phase within a half of a mile you should always go electric. That is assuming you are planning to run the pump for several years. If it is on a duck lease then you could go generator. I have some neighbors that have 350 hp electric motors on well pumps. Talk about making a meter spin.
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how hard/much is it to convert the well to gas/diesel?
If you want to use gas or diesel all you will be doing is buying a generator to run the well pump. If you are pulling out of a well it is still going to be an electric pump.
This post was edited on 5/6/13 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/6/13 at 10:39 pm to Nawlens Gator
quote:We had one give 3600 gpm but 2 miles north of it we had another one that was pitiful. Can't remember the exact gpm on that one but the water table wasn't the same.
I have had wells installed that flow up to 3500 gpm.
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