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Why do LSU fans settle for mediocrity at the QB position?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:32 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:32 am
Just to be clear, I am not talking about tonight's game. College QBs around the country regularly throw for over 300-350 yards and 3-4 touchdowns with seeming ease every week, where as LSU fans seem to be content when the QB reaches 200 yards. These days we seem to rejoice when our QBs cross the 100 yard mark in a game. How did we end up in this situation? Even during Jamarcus Russell's time, he may have thrown for over 300 yards maybe 2 or 3 times in 3 years (don't have the exact figure).
Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003. My question is - Have LSU teams always been like this for ever? Will we ever get a QB, HC, Off Co-ordinator combo where we regularly put up over 400-500 yards offense, 300-400 yards passing, 50+ points (maybe not SEC games, but non-conference games for sure)? Or does that go against some kind of tradition at LSU to have a prolific, lights out offense a la USC, Oregon etc? Is Mettenger someone who can bring this dimension to our team 2012 and beyond?
Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003. My question is - Have LSU teams always been like this for ever? Will we ever get a QB, HC, Off Co-ordinator combo where we regularly put up over 400-500 yards offense, 300-400 yards passing, 50+ points (maybe not SEC games, but non-conference games for sure)? Or does that go against some kind of tradition at LSU to have a prolific, lights out offense a la USC, Oregon etc? Is Mettenger someone who can bring this dimension to our team 2012 and beyond?
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:35 am
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Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:33 am to rickgrimes
You might want to get ready for some bashing....
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:34 am to rickgrimes
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Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:34 am to rickgrimes
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:35 am to rickgrimes
Because LSU football, particularly under Miles, is run first. I don't care if we have a ridiculously good QB, that's what's going to happen. Run.
Why do you attribute passing to good offense? If our RBs can continually grind out 150+ypg and the QBs avoid turnovers and make the necessary completions, there's no need for a "prolific" or gimmicky offense. We play smash mouth football. Run it, run it hard. Keep your opponent's offense off of the field and when they are on the field, have a stifling defense. You will always stay in the game that way.
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Or does that go against some kind of tradition at LSU to have a prolific, lights out offense a la USC, Oregon etc? Is Mettenger someone who can bring this dimension to our team 2012 and beyond?
Why do you attribute passing to good offense? If our RBs can continually grind out 150+ypg and the QBs avoid turnovers and make the necessary completions, there's no need for a "prolific" or gimmicky offense. We play smash mouth football. Run it, run it hard. Keep your opponent's offense off of the field and when they are on the field, have a stifling defense. You will always stay in the game that way.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:35 am to rickgrimes
Have you noticed the running game? You expect to put up 200-250 rushing and 300 passing? Not going to happen.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:36 am to rickgrimes
birdman warned you...
regularly? really? link that please
If you don't know, then don't say. Or use google dumbass
bada bing bada boom
don't start threads. EVER
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College QBs around the country regularly throw for over 300-350 yards and 3-4 touchdowns with seeming ease every week
regularly? really? link that please
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Even during Jamarcus Russell's time, he may have thrown for over 300 yards maybe 2 or 3 times in 3 years (don't have the exact figure).
If you don't know, then don't say. Or use google dumbass
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Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003
bada bing bada boom
don't start threads. EVER
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:37 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:38 am to Hulkklogan
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Why do you attribute passing to good offense? If our RBs can continually grind out 150+ypg and the QBs avoid turnovers and make the necessary completions, there's no need for a "prolific" or gimmicky offense. We play smash mouth football. Run it, run it hard. Keep your opponent's offense off of the field and when they are on the field, have a stifling defense. You will always stay in the game that way.
All of this is fine until when we get behind by over 2 touchdowns and are forced to pass to win a game, we don't seem to have QBs who can put the offense on their shoulders and win the game single handedly for the team.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:39 am to rickgrimes
We haven't had many top notch QB's come here especially considering how well we recruit other positions. I am beginning to think it has to do with the play we have had at QB recently that must make the good ones shy away. I am surprised we still get such good receivers.
ETA: maybe had RP not been kicked off the team we would have had better passing stats that would entice more good QB's to come here.
ETA: maybe had RP not been kicked off the team we would have had better passing stats that would entice more good QB's to come here.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:40 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:40 am to stapuffmarshy
If you have anything to contribute to the thread, by all means say something meaningful or else GTFO.
ETA: Read Hulkklogan or Topwater Trout's post. I am looking for answers like those.
ETA: Read Hulkklogan or Topwater Trout's post. I am looking for answers like those.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:42 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:41 am to rickgrimes
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Why do LSU fans settle for mediocrity at the QB position?
because we have no choice.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:41 am to rickgrimes
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Perfect example that just proves my point:
If you were calling plays...How many passing plays would you have called?
You do realize when you are UP by 46...You don't throw much. We were up 40-13 and 49-3. Should we have been airing it out. Seriously.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:43 am to rickgrimes
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All of this is fine until when we get behind by over 2 touchdowns
How often has this happened in the recent past? And I don't expect it will happen once this season
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we don't seem to have QBs who can put the offense on their shoulders and win the game single handedly for the team.
What exactly did Lee do against Tennessee and Florida last year then?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:43 am to rickgrimes
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If you have anything to contribute to the thread, by all means say something meaningful or else GTFO.
I told you, man.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.
You come on here and start a ridiculous thread about mediocrity at QB here?
Enlighten all of us.
Mediocrity like..... Matt Mauck?
JaMarcus Russell?
Matt Flynn?
Rohan Davey?
Shall I continue?
Don't start a thread you can't back up.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:45 am to LSUPHILLY72
It seems to me that Florida or Alabama or other SEC schools have no problems blowing away non-conference cup cake teams 72-10, 65-3 or whatever, but for some reason LSU has a problem doing the same. I don't get it.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:45 am to la_birdman
It is a product of the video game society we live in. People think that 400+ passing yard, constant gimmick play bullshite works for everyone. Les Miles is a Bo Schembechler type of guy...and Bo won an ASSLOAD of games by not throwing for a ton of yards.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:46 am to rickgrimes
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If you have anything to contribute to the thread, by all means say something meaningful or else GTFO.
I contributed by questioning your right to even ask the question if you have only been following LSU football since 2003.
You say you see COLLEGE QBs throwing for 300 yds reguarly all over the place. I don't agree with that so I am asking you to prove it. You cannot since you pulled the statement out of your arse.
If you were a LSU fan or want to learn the history of the QB position at LSU, I can give you some books and such to reference
and what does it mean LSU fan settle? What do you want. Crowd chants of put so and so in?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:46 am to rickgrimes
Your bitch is not with the QB's it is with Les Miles. His game plan is to run the ball and pass onlyl when absolutely neccesary. You act like all those teams out there that throw for 350 to 450 yards have alot of rushing yards, they don't. If you want a passing attack that does that go be a fan of Texas Tech. LSU is and will always be(under LES) run until they stop us. Eats up clock and defenses. 
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:47 am to rickgrimes
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It seems to me that Florida or Alabama or other SEC schools have no problems blowing away non-conference cup cake teams 72-10, 65-3 or whatever, but for some reason LSU has a problem doing the same. I don't get it.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:48 am to la_birdman
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Mediocrity like..... Matt Mauck?
JaMarcus Russell?
Matt Flynn?
Rohan Davey?
None of them came close to the success Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, (heck even Chris Leak ) had at the college level passing the ball.
You just made my point for me.
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