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re: Why do LSU fans settle for mediocrity at the QB position?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:49 am to rickgrimes
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:49 am to rickgrimes
I seem to remember CLM running up scores when he was at OK. St but I could be wrong. We may not have done it early tonite but we dominated the hell out of that team. I can remember Florida and Miami blowing us out and they were still passing late in games.
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Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:52 am to rickgrimes
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None of them came close to the success Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, (heck even Chris Leak ) had at the college level passing the ball.
All of these guys were part of COMPLETELY different offenses.
LSU is run 60% pas 40%. We won't have a QB put up big time numbers unless our personnel is suited for that kind of offense. Miles has recruited a large O-line and excellent runningbacks. There is the emphasis. There is the offense.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:53 am to rickgrimes
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It seems to me that Florida or Alabama or other SEC schools have no problems blowing away non-conference cup cake teams 72-10, 65-3 or whatever, but for some reason LSU has a problem doing the same. I don't get it.
So basically what you're saying is you have a problem with the coaching staff not running the score up like Saban, Petrino, Meyer (when he was coaching) would do. Is that correct?
First thing, Les doesn't run up the score on other Louisiana teams. If you've been "following" college football since '03, you should've noticed this. Tonight's game in particular, the head coach for Nw St. used to work for Miles. You really think Miles is gonna slap his buddy with a 83-3 loss? No. He's a personable guy and knows basically we had the game won from the start.
He kept the foot on the throat of an up tempo #3 Oregon team last week and dropped 40 on them.
So what's the problem again?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:53 am to rickgrimes
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It seems to me that Florida or Alabama or other SEC schools have no problems blowing away non-conference cup cake teams 72-10, 65-3 or whatever, but for some reason LSU has a problem doing the same. I don't get it.
Seems to me we just beat one 49-3. Les isn't one to run up the score to 60 or whatever which is why we rarely crack 50. We get the big lead and then run the clock out, no need to be pass happy.
We do have a habit of blowing out big time OOC opponents though. OSU, Washington, A&M, and now Oregon all scored late td's to make the game look like it was closer than it was.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 1:55 am to rickgrimes
yet, all four of them play(ed) in the NFL
When you only attempt 20 passes in a game...your QB is not going to be putting up lights out passing numbers. Miles's philosophy is run the ball until they stop you. Its going to stay like that as long as he is our coach...and hell, it works.
When you only attempt 20 passes in a game...your QB is not going to be putting up lights out passing numbers. Miles's philosophy is run the ball until they stop you. Its going to stay like that as long as he is our coach...and hell, it works.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 1:56 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:00 am to Gtiger9757
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Miles's philosophy is run the ball until they stop you. Its going to stay like that as long as he is our coach.
Didn't seem much different when Saban was the coach. But that could have been Jimbo Fisher and his type of play calling.
But anyway seems like everyone here likes the old-school smash mouth type of football. While it is effective for doing well in the SEC, can't say that we have the offensive fire power (and a QB) to come back from behind and win a big game when we are forced to pass only.
P.S. It is funny to see all you guys worked up just because I came close to saying something remotely negative about the LSU team. A little criticism or objective analysis never hurt anyone.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 2:03 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:02 am to rickgrimes
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But anyway seems like everyone here likes the old-school smash mouth type of football.
It works, but to be honest is not as fun to watch.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:02 am to rickgrimes
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Mediocrity like..... Matt Mauck?
JaMarcus Russell?
Matt Flynn?
Rohan Davey?
Please explain.
You've got 2 qb's that won Nat'l titles. One that could have if he hadn't gone pro but walked all over Notre Dame, and another who also won a Sugar Bowl win over Illinois.
And? Matt Leinart went to the BCS game and lost.
Colt McCoy went to the BCS game and lost.
Tebow won his second go round. More with him and Leak in '06.
Rebuttal?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:03 am to rickgrimes
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But anyway seems like everyone here likes the old-school smash mouth type of football
Um, it has won us a hell of a lot of games. Winning games is fun, at least for many of the fans. Other fans do not enjoy winning when it is not done in a manner that personally suits them. Those dumbasses post here and are easy to find.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:04 am to la_birdman
two of them also have super bowl rings 
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:07 am to la_birdman
The stats don't compare brah. The guys that I mentioned wipe the floor with LSU QBs when it comes to numbers.
I am not talking championships here which is more of a team effort.
I am just asking you guys if we ever had offenses or QBs at LSU that put up huge numbers regularly?
I am not talking championships here which is more of a team effort.
I am just asking you guys if we ever had offenses or QBs at LSU that put up huge numbers regularly?
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:10 am to rickgrimes
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I am just asking you guys if we ever had offenses or QBs at LSU that put up huge numbers regularly?
No. LSU's program has been built on defense and the running game.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:10 am to rickgrimes
get ready for more bashing.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:12 am to rickgrimes
Davey put up over 3300 yards in his senior season, which was the only full season he got to play. He had over 500 in one game vs. Alabama that year. The point is, LSU doesn't win games by throwing for tons of yards. LSU is not Texas Tech. Russell threw for 2400 and 3100 yards his 2 full seasons. Flynn threw for 2400 in his one full season. Mauck threw for 2800 in his one full season. Those arent obscene numbers....but they arent bad either.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:12 am to rickgrimes
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It is funny to see all you guys worked up just because I came close to saying something remotely negative about the LSU team. A little criticism or objective analysis never hurt anyone.
Since you've only been a fan since 2003, here's a little tidbit.
We will eat our own when something goes bad. But LSU fan is knowledgble. Look around. How many teams are built like LSU? Smash mouth football, defense and special teams. Not too many, maybe three or four, and maybe NONE with the depth of the Tigers. We've seen what it takes in a team to win championships twice now in the last 8 years. Why start "bitching" threads when we like what we see and know it's time to enjoy this team instead of nitpick. Thursday is almost here. Les Miles told the team tommorrow is Tuesday for them so I know they are getting ready
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:14 am to rickgrimes
LSU fans put up with it because in College Football defense and running the ball win championships not passing the ball.
What was the last team to sling it around the field and win a championship? USC? Even they relied heavily on the running game of Bush and White. Champions for the last ten years win with defense and running the ball.
Run the ball effectively. Dominate the line of scrimmage. Play balls out defense. Win championships.
If having a great QB who flung it all over the field mattered then TENN and OLE MISS would have multiple championships.
Give me a plodder who takes care of the ball and an awesome defense and I'll kick your star QB's arse all night.
Even Auburn won last year because of Dyer and Fairley. Newton played like shite in the NC game.
What was the last team to sling it around the field and win a championship? USC? Even they relied heavily on the running game of Bush and White. Champions for the last ten years win with defense and running the ball.
Run the ball effectively. Dominate the line of scrimmage. Play balls out defense. Win championships.
If having a great QB who flung it all over the field mattered then TENN and OLE MISS would have multiple championships.
Give me a plodder who takes care of the ball and an awesome defense and I'll kick your star QB's arse all night.
Even Auburn won last year because of Dyer and Fairley. Newton played like shite in the NC game.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 2:24 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:16 am to extremetigerfanatic
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If having a great QB who flung it all over the field mattered then TENN and OLE MISS would have multiple championships.
So would Bradford, Stafford, McCoy, White, Mallet, etc etc.
Excellent point sir.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:17 am to extremetigerfanatic
BTW, just asking because it seems to fit with your question, but I bet you thought that ND-Mich game as awesome huh? Two teams flinging it up and down the field the last 10 minutes.
yeah. That shite don't win championships. That's why ND and Michigan continue to suck dick. They keep hiring offense minded coaches.
They need a defense minded run minded guy to get them back where they want to be.
just an observation
yeah. That shite don't win championships. That's why ND and Michigan continue to suck dick. They keep hiring offense minded coaches.
They need a defense minded run minded guy to get them back where they want to be.
just an observation
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:19 am to rickgrimes
but they were far from mediocre...as your thread title suggests.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:22 am to extremetigerfanatic
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While it is effective for doing well in the SEC, can't say that we have the offensive fire power (and a QB) to come back from behind and win a big game when we are forced to pass only.
You mean like when Lee won the Tenn and Florida games in come from behind fashion passing the ball last year?
Yeah good call bro.
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