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re: Why do LSU fans settle for mediocrity at the QB position?

Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:18 am to
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:18 am to
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Will we ever get a QB, HC, Off Co-ordinator combo where we regularly put up over 400-500 yards offense, 300-400 yards passing, 50+ points


Dude this aint the pac 12. We actually have to play against really good defenses. This doesn't happen that often in the SEC.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44563 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:22 am to
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None of them came close to the success Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, (heck even Chris Leak ) had at the college level passing the ball.



bullshite.

I'm only gonna deal with the SEC QBs in here, because the other guys played in conferences where video game passing stats were very much possible.

anyway, put Tebow or Leak's best yrs passing up against Mauck's, Russell's, or Davey's, and the numbers are about the same. or in some cases for our guys, better.

again sir, bullshite.
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4973 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:23 am to
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ETA: I'm agreeing with you, just adding my 2 pennies


That's the way I took it. I agree in the 'total team' concept, but frankly I think we could have been a lot better over the last 8-10 years in the passing game while still maintaining the style of play/ system that we use if we just had a decent QB coach. Hopefully Kragthorpe is able to be that guy for us going forward.....
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36817 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:26 am to
Since 2003 wehn you became an LSU fan we have lost 2 starting QB's to suspensions. This set the potion back a little bit. We are only 2 games into the season. Re-post this topic in decemebr and we'll where we are at.

As for fans "settling" for inferior QB play...we don't make the decisions, FYI
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:51 am to
I suggest that you personally contact Coach Miles and Aleva and tell them you aren't gonna take it any more, and that you aren't gonna settle for mediocrity at the QB position.

BTW, Miles recruited an excellent QB recently who decided to play baseball instead. He also recruited the no. 1 rated JC QB in the country this past year. Rivers was also a reasonably strong prospect who signed with LSU.

It is also easier to recruit a Louisiana QB to LSU, but
apparently there haven't been many decent ones. JJ was certainly expected to be a better QB than we have seen.

JL, from Texas, hasn't been the QB that everyone hoped he would be, either. Sometimes things just don't go as expected. It happens. Alabama fans aren't all that sure yet about McCarron this year, for example. Ole Miss has struggled at the position. Florida struggled last year.

The RP situation has definitely had an impact on LSU over the last several years.

But, at any rate, I am sure your views expressed to the administration will have a positive impact on the situation.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 7:52 am
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4973 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 7:56 am to
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Since 2003 wehn you became an LSU fan we have lost 2 starting QB's to suspensions. This set the potion back a little bit. We are only 2 games into the season. Re-post this topic in decemebr and we'll where we are at.

As for fans "settling" for inferior QB play...we don't make the decisions, FY


True on the suspensions. False on the "since 2003" - I'm definitely a little older than that!
Posted by flbeachtiger
Tampa, FL
Member since Mar 2011
553 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 8:01 am to
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It seems to me that Florida or Alabama or other SEC schools have no problems blowing away non-conference cup cake teams 72-10, 65-3 or whatever, but for some reason LSU has a problem doing the same. I don't get it.


So what? It makes you feel good to watch a team blast some smaller school in that way?

Apparently your not bright enough to understand that it is not that they can't it is that Les won't.

Especially the in state schools. LM is not going to completely embarrass them that way.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18380 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 8:02 am to
You really are a dumbazz.....ain't ye Urban?
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 8:51 am to
I hear ya, but fact is LSU has always been a semi-balanced attack (having to lean to the run too much), but thankfully with an explosive single play ability and special teams.

I've always wished they pass more, but this is the SEC, which is not like the pass-loving conferences of the West. Also, Les Miles is a Big 10-minded coach.


The above said, bungled coaching hires/rehires and QB recruiting has perpetuated a high reliance to the run.

Here the great LSU QBs of the last 22 years, looking at total yards passing and TDs:

Tommy Hodson
Rohan Davey
Matt Mauck
JaMarcus Russell

Of course, anything is possible in the future, and our QB future is looking brighter.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 9:32 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42596 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 8:55 am to
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Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003 bada
bing bada boom
don't start threads. EVER

Only way this is acceptable is if he is 13 years old.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:01 am to
if you ask me, you don't know much about college football. the passing leaders are almost always from teams that can't run the ball and they have to pass to have a chance to win. you use ONLY passing yardage as your yardstick of a good QB. to say that's wrong is an understatement. it's not like baseball where ERA is the key pitchers stat. when you peel away the obvious "yardage bloating" by the crappy teams, LSU QB's are OK. our system will not, and never will, produce passing leaders. if that is what you call mediocre then so be it.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:04 am to
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All of this is fine until when we get behind by over 2 touchdowns and are forced to pass to win a game, we don't seem to have QBs who can put the offense on their shoulders and win the game single handedly for the team.


and we get behind by 2 td's how often? you dwell in a world of statistics. i dwell in a world of winning.
Posted by Longfellow
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
341 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:37 am to
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we don't seem to have QBs who can put the offense on their shoulders and win the game single handedly for the team
Two words for you: Jacob Hester.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:39 am to
when you have 40-50 rushes per game.. somethings gonna take a hit.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:39 am to
1. there is no choice.

2. there is no choice.

when a better QB comes along, fans will be happy about it.

no one is 'settling'.

JL is slow, lead footed. He can play the position.
Mett appears to have a better arm and is more mobile. Some day Mett will be the starter.

relax and enjoy the ride.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:42 am to
Stupid post. Passing yardage has nothing to do with winning championships. Running the ball, stopping the run, specials teams, and limiting turnovers is the proven recipe for winning. You sound like a stat whore.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:42 am to
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JL is slow, lead footed. He can play the position.


Lee- 40:4.68 secs
Mett- 40: 4.7 secs

Just saying
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Granted I have only been following LSU football since 2003 bada
bing bada boom
don't start threads. EVER



Only way this is acceptable is if he is 13 years old.



well he posted this too:
quote:


in the dark here and my wife is sleeping next to me.


So Im thinking if he lives in Arkansas, he could be 13, the rest of the country he's atleast legal


and his tread starting days should be over
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:45 am to
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College QBs around the country regularly throw for over 300-350 yards and 3-4 touchdowns



They have to in order to win. We do not. Ball control is our game and I love it.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 9/11/11 at 9:48 am to
God, I hate our fans sometimes.
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