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re: What is more valuable: Your "stuff", or the life of a criminal?

Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:29 am to
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11489 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:29 am to
I used my life to buy my stuff. Time is Life.

My stuff is more valuable than someone else's life.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31507 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:32 am to
everything i own is worth more than someones life if i catch in my house stealing it.

sorry but not sorry. only a piece of shite would break into someones home

now if i catch you stealing off the lawn...sure not gonna shoot you...but you enter my house or our business and try and pull a gun on me or my family....every single thing i own, down to a piece of bread becomes more valuable than your life because at that point....the theif has made the decision that my things are more valuable than my life or his life.

i 100% agree with your assessment.
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
1838 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Thats the wrong question and addressed to the wrong party.

If we're being genuine and honest the question would be for the criminal and would read as such.

What's more valuable to you, your life or acquiring property that doesn't belong to you through criminal means?

See that other question should be ignored altogether because law abiding citizens are not out looking for criminals to shoot however on the other hand.... criminals are out there doing what they do.


It's a classic tactic to just dismiss the decision the criminal makes to commit the crime as inevitable or necessity in order to create the false narrative.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14521 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:35 am to
If you’re trying to steal it, my stuff. frick a thief
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14521 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:36 am to
quote:

everything i own is worth more than someones life if i catch in my house stealing it.

sorry but not sorry. only a piece of shite would break into someones home

now if i catch you stealing off the lawn...sure not gonna shoot you...but you enter my house or our business and try and pull a gun on me or my family....every single thing i own, down to a piece of bread becomes more valuable than your life because at that point....the theif has made the decision that my things are more valuable than my life or his life.



Well said
Posted by Farmtiger
West "By God" Monroe
Member since Dec 2003
2792 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:39 am to
Someone should tell the criminal that before he steals! Apparently they think their life could be worth what they are taking.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:42 am to
quote:

It inevitably happens when a lawbreaker is killed by the Police or by intended victim during the commission of a crime.

Someone makes the comment "A persons' life is worth more than your material possessions...."


To the thief? Absolutely.

To the person making the comment? Maybe?

To me? No. If you’re in my home, I’d shoot you to prevent you from stealing from my trash can.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1875 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:51 am to
It's a bullshite argument. The real argument is whether the law was broken. The "stuff" argument is a red herring.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18756 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 8:53 am to
False equivalency is false.
Posted by Mor Miles
Member since Apr 2017
422 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:00 am to
If a criminal assesses that my stuff is worth more than his life, who am I to question their judgement?
Posted by ob1pimpbobi
College Station
Member since Jul 2022
2637 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:00 am to
frick criminals. My stuff is more valuable than their pathetic lives.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14822 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:01 am to
Read the second half of my post.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45097 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:04 am to
quote:

It inevitably happens when a lawbreaker is killed by the Police or by intended victim during the commission of a crime.

Someone makes the comment "A persons' life is worth more than your material possessions...."

Well, is it?

"Stuff" is generally acquired over time with money.

Money for most is made by trading labor, i.e., "time" for currency.

If a POS steals something that you spent years acquiring, laboring at a job you don't particularly care for, that person is in essence stealing part of your life.

Thoughts?


Marxists don't believe in private property rights. That's why they say shite like that.

Thieves are subhuman scum. Their lives are worth nothing.
This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30141 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

The criminal chose to make his life less valuable when he decided to steal my stuff. Stop rationalizing crime.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71538 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:24 am to
It's not about my stuff. If I could 100% know they just want my stuff, I probably wouldn't shoot. The issue is I can never know 100% that someone already breaking the social contract will not go further. I live with my gf, soon to be fiance/wife, and I cannot take the same chances that I would if it was just me. I hope and pray I'm never in the situation, but I just cannot take the chance someone could overpower me and/or kill me and get at her. I would, assuming the situation is as described, end the situation with detriment to the invader. Again, hope it never happens, and understand it would greatly affect me afterwards.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3137 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:27 am to
Most of the time, this stupid argument is used when someone is rifling through your car or shed, not breaking into your home.

I do agree, I'd like to shoot them for stealing my weedeater or drill or something, but I also think, do I really want to go through all the hassle of shooting someone(possible lawsuit,court proceedings, etc) for $200 tool? The answer is usually no.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:27 am to
Life is precious but if someone has proven they are a career thief and cannot be rehabilitated, you have to cage them. That's my take. They shouldn't be killed for it but prison effectively takes them out of society.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
11024 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

It's a classic tactic to just dismiss the decision the criminal makes to commit the crime as inevitable or necessity in order to create the false narrative.


Yes this is tried and true tactic of the progressives and if you don't agree "YOU'RE A RACIST"!!!!
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3138 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:32 am to
Absolutely correct OP. The average working American sacrifices roughly 40% of their waking hours during the healthy productive years of their lives working to sustain themselves and get ahead. If we say that period of life is about 1/2 of a normal human life, then you spend 20% of your conscious time on Earth laboring for those fruits that are being stolen.

I’m not sure at what point the exchange rate flips, but I am very sure one productive life > five criminal lives.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7016 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Read the second half of my post

ok, so you see a guy walk up your driveway and start riding off with your bike. You going out like a warfighter and putting this guy down? Whether or not you were in the right wont matter. Your life will be significantly worse from that point on
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